Heat from the cremation incineration process could be recycled to warm the chapel at Dukinfield Crematorium in a radical green idea.Tameside Council wants to reduce its carbon footprint by capturing and reusing the energy. Town hall chiefs say the heat generated will be enough to power the boiler and light the chapel.Sensitive But they admit it is a ‘sensitive’ issue and have promised to consult with clergy and the wider community before putting the plan into action. Robin Monk, environment chief, said: "I’m not sure how people will react, but we certainly don’t want to upset anyone."If you look at it in black and white, some people might sit there thinking, my relative is being cremated to heat the chapel."So we are conscious that it might be a sensitive matter. We will carry out full consultation with local priests, vicars and the public before a decision is taken."The council must slash the amount ofn From page one mercury released into the atmosphere by fitting expensive new filter equipment at the crematorium. It costs £500,000 and must be in place by 2012.Mercury contained in the flue gases actually comes from the vaporisation of tooth fillings. Most people over 30 still have mercury tooth fillings, which means unless action is taken it could pose a problem for the next 60 years.At the present rate, the government estimates crematoria will be Britain’s biggest source of mercury emissions by 2020.Cremations take place at 1,000c but the temperature must be reduced to 160c in order to remove the mercury. The excess waste heat is sent up the flue and disappears in the atmosphere.Mr Monk said: "Heat exchangers will be installed to reduce the temperature. The rest is simply wasted up the chimney. Basically it’s just heat which will otherwise be lost. The option is to capture it and re-use it for warming the radiators or boiling the kettles."We could just install the mercury abatement equipment and nothing else. But in this day and age we all have to look at reducing our carbon footprint."The Rev Tim Hayes, of St John’s Church, Dukinfield said: "I have no problem with it. They treat people with real dignity at the crem, but the procedure itself is a very scientific process."The Rev Dr Vernon Marshall, of Old Chapel, Dukinfield, said: "As a final act of generosity, it’s a lovely way for the dead to provide comfort for the living at a difficult time. "I think it’s a great idea." Source Tameside Advertiser
Friday, 28 December 2007
Recycling plan for crem’s body heat
Heat from the cremation incineration process could be recycled to warm the chapel at Dukinfield Crematorium in a radical green idea.Tameside Council wants to reduce its carbon footprint by capturing and reusing the energy. Town hall chiefs say the heat generated will be enough to power the boiler and light the chapel.Sensitive But they admit it is a ‘sensitive’ issue and have promised to consult with clergy and the wider community before putting the plan into action. Robin Monk, environment chief, said: "I’m not sure how people will react, but we certainly don’t want to upset anyone."If you look at it in black and white, some people might sit there thinking, my relative is being cremated to heat the chapel."So we are conscious that it might be a sensitive matter. We will carry out full consultation with local priests, vicars and the public before a decision is taken."The council must slash the amount ofn From page one mercury released into the atmosphere by fitting expensive new filter equipment at the crematorium. It costs £500,000 and must be in place by 2012.Mercury contained in the flue gases actually comes from the vaporisation of tooth fillings. Most people over 30 still have mercury tooth fillings, which means unless action is taken it could pose a problem for the next 60 years.At the present rate, the government estimates crematoria will be Britain’s biggest source of mercury emissions by 2020.Cremations take place at 1,000c but the temperature must be reduced to 160c in order to remove the mercury. The excess waste heat is sent up the flue and disappears in the atmosphere.Mr Monk said: "Heat exchangers will be installed to reduce the temperature. The rest is simply wasted up the chimney. Basically it’s just heat which will otherwise be lost. The option is to capture it and re-use it for warming the radiators or boiling the kettles."We could just install the mercury abatement equipment and nothing else. But in this day and age we all have to look at reducing our carbon footprint."The Rev Tim Hayes, of St John’s Church, Dukinfield said: "I have no problem with it. They treat people with real dignity at the crem, but the procedure itself is a very scientific process."The Rev Dr Vernon Marshall, of Old Chapel, Dukinfield, said: "As a final act of generosity, it’s a lovely way for the dead to provide comfort for the living at a difficult time. "I think it’s a great idea." Source Tameside Advertiser
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Yet another cost imposed on Tameside, these £500,000 filters will have to be paid for in higher cremation costs by bereaved families.
And who says we need these filters by 2012, yep the EU. have we a choice Nope.
On a personal level I am uncomfortable with the heating plan, and feel that it could cause distress to the families. The saving of the small amount of fuel used at Duki crem for heating is not worth the grief it could cause
Wow someone from UKIP. I Hear you lot are having more trouble than the BNP and are having to withdraw a lot of your candidates from areas such as Hurst and St Michaels. Is this true????
I suppose I shouldn't detract from this argument, but I feel that the costs should be weighed up before they are implemented. If you don't like it, then use a different crematorium. I think a "green" cremation would actually attract more people to be cremated at Dukinfield Crematorium rather than acting as deterrent.
If my burning body gives the priest a nice brew. Then I am sure the baby Jesus would be very welcoming.
No truth whatsoever, I am pleased to say. All of the candidates from 2007 have been reselected for 2008,and in addition we have at least another 4 eager to stand. I cannot of course comment on which wards we will be standing.I am unsure as to what trouble you are referring to though?
Sorry anonymous, I think you may have missed the point. All crematoria in the UK are obliged to fit these filters by EU dictat, so there will be little chance of shopping round on price.
The heat exchangers to reuse the heat will be an additional cost.
Ahh UKIP The Tameside Labour Party favourite opposition party.
I take it your candidates will be appologising again as one did last year for basically keeping a fucking useless Labour CLLR in his seat.
Well Done on that one!
I am not aware of any candidate apologising, but we are always sorry when a labour councilor retains his seat just as we are when a tory or lib dim does. We are sorry for the people of Tameside that the charade of democracy continues, all three of the big parties with the same policies, which are not their policies at all, but the EUs.
Notice that nothing changes which ever one you vote for?. The old vote splitting smear is as false now as it was when labour were starting out.
I was there. Your candidate apologised to Kate Scott and the other Hurst councillors on the election night in Ashton town hall for allowing Alan Shitehead to get back in.
All we needed was 14 more votes to get the lovely Kate Scott in Hurst. UKIP took around 85 or so. Those are just protest votes or someone forgot to put on their readers. UKIP steal Tory policy all the time.
Hi Liam, I did not realise it was you I was talking to, Did Paul sound Sincere then?. So Hurst and St Michaels are your two main areas of concern are they? I thought you were no longer in the Tory group?
I thought it was great when John Bell accused us of costing you two seats (Duki/Staly and Hurst).
I can assure you we are not targeting just Tory hopefuls, we intend to be as big a thorn in liebours side.
Scott or Whitehead, who cares? Tweedledee or Tweedledum.
Yes I remember stealing Tory policies like leaving the EU, Scrapping inheritance ,cutting council tax, not invading Iraq and Afghanistan.
Recyling heat from the crem eh, looks like some very hot air being recycled on here from two very bad losers,
Hey UKIP what was one of your election pledges last year
"to reduce Council tax by 40%" anyone who promises that is talking bollocks
Wandsworth 07/08 band A £450.78
Tameside 07/08 band A £833.55
Wandsworth 07/08 Band C £601.03
Tameside 07/08 Band C £1111.40
Both similar, Both suburbs of a large conurbation. so why is it bollocks that two councils meeting the same legal requirements, one in a city with a much higher cost of living, have such differing rates?
Perhaps you should ask how you can justify the fact that the tories have committed themselves to the same level of spending as a profligate liebour Government for the first 3 YEARS of a tory govt.
I am prepared to come on here and justify our policies and will endeavour to be polite. I would suggest you try the same.
"Hi Liam, I did not realise it was you I was talking to"
I have not commented anonymously on this post. I did so under the name of Tameside Eye.
"Did Paul sound Sincere then?. So Hurst and St Michaels are your two main areas of concern are they?"
Yes he did. He had a bit of a gimpish look on his face. Look at the election statistics for 2007 and it won't take much to work out Sherlock.
"I thought you were no longer in the Tory group?"
No I am not. I am allowed to support them. I think it would be great if we got Kate Scott in Ashton Hurst along with Peter Schofield for St. Michaels.
"I thought it was great when John Bell accused us of costing you two seats (Duki/Staly and Hurst)."
John Bell says a lot of things...
"I can assure you we are not targeting just Tory hopefuls, we intend to be as big a thorn in liebours side."
But UKIP do take Tory policy. It is a protest vote. You know that you don't take any of the Labour share at all.
What you don't realise is that by going in Hurst and St. Michaels, you are holding your party back. Your party preys on the Tory protest vote. If Tameside had more Conservative councillors, that means more protest votes for you!
"Scott or Whitehead, who cares? Tweedledee or Tweedledum."
I disagree. Kate is a lovely lady and a credit to Tameside Tories. Whitehead on the other hand is a champagne socialist pig.
"Yes I remember stealing Tory policies like leaving the EU, Scrapping inheritance ,cutting council tax, not invading Iraq and Afghanistan."
The EU has many benefits to be a part of. However it is the UK which is getting the shit end of the stick. It needs to be addressed, not scrapped completely.
Scrapping Inheritance tax? The Tories have never come up with that one, but they promise to increase the threshold in line with inflation. This is reasonable. It allows a good revenue stream to keep services going.
Your council tax cuts are ludicrous. You need to get back down to planet Earth and realise that Tameside Council has to put up with a lot of low income residents who require support. I think council tax can be reduced by creating greater efficiency and namely JOB CUTS. It is unpopular to mention, but is realistic. There needs to be more hands on work and less supervisors. Money needs to be allocated to areas such as preventing crime and by that I don't mean more Tameside patrollers. Tameside Councils answer to job creation is to create jobs within their own departments. Not the much needed private sector around Tameside. St. Pertersfield is an example with the PCT HQ.
Not evading Iraq and Iran... Are you saying that if you had as many MP's as Labour or the Conservative party, all of the UKIP MPs would be voting in harmony? I think the answer would be no. You contradict the line of needing a referenda for each major decision as your party would be making it's decision and telling it's members to follow that decision before the vote is cast making it bias.
Don't go making promises you can't keep.
Oh and Wandsworth is a Tory controlled council. I see no members of that council being a member of UKIP.
Wandsworth is a Tory controlled Council and is a testimony to the Tories that when they're given the ball the tax payer is better off.
See also:
ICM finds support for UKIP down to ZERO percent
So much for UKIP!
Wow big post!
If you state you have only posted as Tameside eye, of course I will accept that, it was just the fact that both posters came out with the same allegation against Paul/Rick.
I am unable to confirm or deny any comments made at the count until I have spoken to the members concerned, which will be after the holidays.
I am sure they will be delighted, as will the disabled voters of Longdendale, by your use of the term gimpish.
I do not know Cllr Whitehead or the two tory candidates, I do not need to, the policies will be the same.
UKIP is not a protest vote. We are a fully fledged party, with our main principles being Libertarian, Low tax Small government. We receive votes from all sides but mainly from the people who are not prepared to vote for you or labour.
I note you are pro EU and stick with the line that it can be reformed, good luck with that! perhaps you could list some of the benefits?
I am unsure of your economic arguments. On one hand you state Tameside needs extra resources. then you state money can be saved by reducing Council staff. You accuse our plans of being ludicrous, but take credit for low CT in Wandsworth. I just don't get it.
UKIP opposed the war with Iraq, the official tory line was to support it.
If you believe the ICM poll, why are you attacking UKIP, if we are irrelevant, why bother.
"I am sure they will be delighted, as will the disabled voters of Longdendale, by your use of the term gimpish."
Everything I say comes back to haunt me. I am independent now. can say whatever the Jeffery I like. I am no longer bound by party policy.
You maybe surprised to know that I am withdrawing from being a candidate this year. I have a very busy three months ahead of me in terms of work. This means I would have little time to canvas Longdendale in the way I would like to do. I hope to campaign for the 2010 elections.
"We are a fully fledged party, with our main principles being Libertarian, Low tax Small government."
Small government? Then what would be the point of most of UKIP's members? Anyway your policy of needing a referendum for each major decision shows your lack of vision and leadership. A referendum is costly to the tax payer and highly beuarocratic.
"I note you are pro EU and stick with the line that it can be reformed, good luck with that! perhaps you could list some of the benefits?"
My view on the EU is neutral. I am not strongly for or against it. I don't think it is a big concern for local politics.
The EU has not delivered many economic benefits, but it has made trade fairer. There are many sanctions which the EU impose to improve the quality of life for others including ourselves in the UK.
"I am unsure of your economic arguments. On one hand you state Tameside needs extra resources. then you state money can be saved by reducing Council staff. You accuse our plans of being ludicrous, but take credit for low CT in Wandsworth. I just don't get it."
This shows your lack of knowledge of Tameside Council. Tameside Council employs 8,000 staff with two thirds of that staff saying they don't have enough work. Tameside Council has a problem with nepotism which needs to be investigated. For example - Lynn Travis, a "contractor" to Tameside Council for PR. She then later joins the Labour party to become a councillor for Waterloo. There is also Paul Douthwaite, a former director at TMBC who applied for the chief execs position who failed. He is now chair of the Mossley Labour Party and is the candidate for Hurst. There are areas of Tameside Council which are heavily underfunded. You need to shift the money away from the beaurocrats and into better public services which the public actually want as to some bronze plaque to glorify the council leader or some horrific giant "t".
As far as I am aware it has always been a Tory pledge to work towards lowering council tax in Tameside or freezing it. You can't just shave off 40% in one year, you need to work at it over a long period of time and by that time inflation would have gone up.
"If you believe the ICM poll, why are you attacking UKIP, if we are irrelevant, why bother."
If you think I am irrelevant, then why bother responding to my posts? Because that’s politics, people disagree all the time. People disagree with me and I will sometimes disagree with them.
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