A disabled man was attacked by an armed gang in Greater Manchester as he sat in his wheelchair. The 51-year-old was unable to escape as three men slashed his face with a wire claw type weapon and cut his chest with a craft knife on Tuesday at 0005 BST. The man was walking his dog on Blandford Street, Ashton-under-Lyne when the trio demanded cash and cigarettes before attacking him. Nothing was stolen during the incident and the gang fled but detectives are appealing for information to catch those responsible. The first offender, who carried the knife, was described as having short black hair, approximately 5ft 7in (1.5m) tall and aged between 20 and 24-years-old. The man who used the claw type weapon was 5ft 4in to 5ft 6in (1.5m) tall, aged about 18-years-old and of slim build. Police said he spoke with a local accent. The third was described as being 5ft 8in (1.5m) tall, with a medium build and aged between 20 and 24-years-old. All three men are believed to be Asian and wore black hooded tops and black tracksuit bottoms.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7014359.stmIt is interesting that this cowardly crime ‘appears’ to have been attempted robbery, despite the fact the fact nothing was taken. The victim was white and the attackers Asian. Had the victim been Asian and the attackers’ white, I could guarantee you with certainty that it would be have been classed as a racist incident and no doubt would have received massive media coverage rather than being tucked away on the Manchester page of the BBC News website.
Tameside Citizen
21 comments:
Thanks for this item T C.
Was the victim white do we know?
I have already submitted a question on this incident to the Ashton district assembly asking was the victim white...in which case I call it a racist incident and a hate crime.
From the GMP's own web site:-
QUOTE "A hate incident is defined as:
“Any incident, which may or may not constitute a criminal offence, which is perceived by the victim or any other person, as being motivated by prejudice or hate.”
A hate crime is defined as:
“Any hate incident, which constitutes a criminal offence, perceived by the victim or any other person, as being motivated by prejudice or hate.”
The perception can be that the prejudice or hatred motivation displayed during the incident or crime was due to someone's gender, disability, race, religion or sexual orientation. "
David, as the man was white, this classes him as being part of the majority and UK law only protects the minority. It is perfectly OK for a black person to come up to me and call me a white bastard, that is what the whole controversy was stirred up from that Trevor McDonnald show which made people realise what a stupid loophole it is.
I don't see how the victim would be able to class it as a hate crime unless he had a good case for the thugs to target him because of his disability or they expressed that as they attacked him.
If he does state the case as being a hate crime the police will be more responsive into catching the criminals and they will be given a harsher sentence.
If I was the leader of Tameside British National Party there would be Ten Councillors on Tameside council by now, If I do not want to be the Leader of Tameside bnp.
Start again, I am not the Leader of Tameside bnp, and I do not want the job, but If I was the Leader of the local bnp group, there would be lots of bnp councillors by now.
Local people want this word to be at the top of the political agenda.
[REPRESENTATION]
Social Justice is another word that local people are very keen on.
Hi Liam
My understanding of the GMP's policy as I originaly posted is that if it is perceived by ANY other person as racist or a hate crime, then it is.
Of course you are correct that it is unlikely to be regarded as such a crime by the police BUT if I declare that I perceive it as a race / hate crime then I will expect either a)The police to treat it as such or b) explain why they are going against their own policy in NOT treating it as such.
You are jumping on a bandwagon Tony when you or no one else knows the facts clearly. You do not know if the person attacked was white or black. Would you be rushing to the persons defence so quickly if he was black?
GMP can not go making up it's own laws without going through parliament for it to become a by-law. I think you have misjudged the statement and obviously the statement needs to be clarified to represent UK law because hate crime does not apply to "everyone" as you are putting it.
I agree if a black person was to make comments against my religion or my skin colour, I would say that it is racist, but UK law says it is not, I am not going to argue that point. This is why I say the person should say that the yobs targeted him because he was defenceless because of his disability and then they would be given a much harsher sentence.
Ex Para
There appears to be an epidemic of these cowardly crimes against the disabled. There was a very similar incident down the road in Longsight, again involving our foreighn 'friends' and a defenceless white man in a wheelchair. These cowardly bastards deserve a 7.62 round right between the eyes.
Wheelchair user mugged by two men
A disabled ex-soldier from Greater Manchester is recovering after two men tipped his wheelchair over in Longsight and mugged him as he lay on the ground.
Dennis Meehan was going through an underpass on Parry Road when he was attacked from behind on Saturday.
As the 54-year-old, who lives in the area, was lying on the ground the men searched him and stole his belongings.
Police have described the attack as "totally despicable" and branded the muggers as "pathetic cowards".
The thieves, who are both described as being black, broke his glasses and stole his Acurist watch and a gold medallion as well as a bracelet, mobile phone and wallet.
Inspector Peter Forster said: "I am almost lost for words at the sheer inhumanity of this incident.
"To target this man for personal gain is totally despicable. These men are clearly pathetic cowards."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7016313.stm
Violent crime is violent crime, hang the bastards.
Why has Senator Theo Bilbo's quote been removed?
Free Speech Campaigner: I removed the comment, not realizing it was actually a quote from Senator Theo G. Bilbo. Please feel free to repost the comment.
"You can take the Negro out of the jungle but you can't take the jungle out of the Negro"
Senator Theo Bilbo 1960.
[Well lets not get to racist]
Comments such as the one by Theo Bilbo were very common before Political Correctness came along.
I didn't post the comment to be racist but simply to show how times have changed. Before the 1960s even elected representatives felt able to give their honest opinions about other races. Winston Churchill made no secret of the fact that he viewed the white race as superior.Some of his early writings, especially those that dealt with his experiences during the Boer war, would break the race laws today.
Dear FSC
You are absolutely correct!
Have you read Churchills's "The River War" or "The Malakand Field Force"? They both contain comments on Islam, based on his service as an Army officer in The Sudan and India's N-W Frontier, which would lead to his persecution (sorry....PROSECUTION) today.
Dear Liam, I'm somewhat confused about comments you've made re: this article. On 27/09/07 at 12.41pm you said the victim was white.Then on 27/09/07 at 18.09pm you said no-one knows if the victim was black or white.The article states the attackers were Asian.I believe is quite safe to say the victim is white because of three reasons.
1) When you read about a woman being raped, 99.99% of the time it's a man who perpertrated the crime, if not 100% of the time. Tell me honestly,how often do you think,"I bet a woman's done that".
2) Asians VERY rarely, if at all attack their own people. Crime statistics will bare out my point. Therefore, when reading about the attack, invariably,we think the victim is none Asian.
3) Some one has been shot in M/cr. Instinctivly I expect the next sentnce to say it was in Moss Side/Hulme etc. and that the victim/perpertrator was black/drug dealer etc. I don't have to read to far to find I'm right.
This doesn't make me racist, it makes the society I and my children live in unsafe.The only answer is no more foreign criminals,spongers and Anglophobes.
tigger
Point 4
He was walking his dog. The Asian community do not as a rule keep dogs as pets
tonydj
You mean they don't as a rule keep dogs for the same reason that in the Terminator movies, people kept dogs to warn them of the presence of cyborgs?
tigger
"I'll be back"
No, just noting that I see many more white people with dogs than I see Asian people with dogs (actually I can't recall (Total Recall?) any). Therefore a "dog walker" more likely to be white than Asian.
Clear this up please who is the real leader of the BNP in Tameside
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