The 16-year-old boy – described as an ‘emo’ – was punched in the face in Tameside. Two arrests were made in what is now being treated as a hate crime because the victim has an alternative lifestyle.The case is the first since Greater Manchester Police adopted new crime recording procedures to cover members of alternative cultures. It means GMP will record offences committed against goths, or other sub-culture groups, as hate crimes, as they do already with offences aimed at race, disability or sexual orientation.
A 14-year-old boy and a man aged 44, both from Manchester, were arrested on suspicion of assault occasioning actual bodily harm and questioned. They have been released on police bail until May 7 pending further enquiries
Assistant Chief Constable Shewan said : “It is unfortunate that this incident happened but the fact we were able to identify this as a hate crime is very positive. Just last Thursday we announced that we will now record alternative sub-culture as a hate motivation. We hope this encourages victims to continue to come forward.” Manchester Evening News
Have you ever imagined what it must have been like living in Salem in 1692? Mass hysteria took hold which resulted in the notorious Salem witch trials. I often think there are similarities between the hysteria which lead to the witch trials and the modern day hysteria linked to minority rights.
This incident in Ashton appears to have been an unfortunate but not a rare event. Sadly reports of people being assaulted by thugs is commonplace in modern Britain. The reason this particular story is receiving national and international news coverage is because it is the first arrest to be carried out under new 'hate crime' policies introduced by GMP.
The following groups have special status in modern Britain in the eyes of the law: Gypsies, non-whites, immigrants regardless of colour, Muslims, Hindus, Jews, Sikhs, Buddhists, disabled people, transsexual people, gay and lesbian people and now goths and emos. As the list of these groups who are afforded 'special status' in the eyes of the law continues to grow, would it not be easier for the law just to create two categories? The first group could be those listed above and known collectively as priority groups and the rest of us who do not fall into these groups could be known as secondary groups.
I know that is a bonkers suggestion, but in effect that is what is happening. The policies of division being implement by the fanatical PC zealots who infest all echelons of the police and judiciary are determined to create a two tier justice system.
If you take a look at this government press release from 2011 you may begin to realise that what I talk is not all hot air. Why should it be that a murderer gets a minimum starting point of thirty years if they kill a transgender, disabled or anyone who falls into one of the 'special status' categories, but if they killed a person outside the special interest categories - such as I, they would have no minimum starting point and could realistically be released within ten years.
The cornerstone of our civilization is that everyone is equal in the eyes of the law but unfortunately we are now witnessing the abandonment of that founding principle and just as in Salem where mass hysteria and fear prevented good people speaking out, the same thing is happening in Britain where people are cowering in submission for fear of falling victim to the PC enforcers which in effect is leading to a situation not as Orwell told of where all animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others but where all victims are equal but some victims are more equal than others. Tameside Citizen
86 comments:
The law should treat scummers and down and outs as they deserve whatever the offence, without categorising offences into a myriad of sub divisions (very often based on political biases). This country and its people have lost all grip of reality.
I was trusted, I gave faith to the people, yet, I cannot look them in the eye!
This is an absurd idea driven by the the grief of that poor girl's mother and aided by Marxists who are keen to subvert the law and attack society.
As a teenager I was always a bit of a Goth, having an artistic temperament and being fascinated by the darker side of things, yet even my teenage self would have thought this insane.
How can anyone think this is a good idea? Even the Marxists push this with the knowledge that they are subverting the system.
Serves them right for sacking Rome in 410 AD. (Only kidding!).
I am in two minds over this. On the one hand I believe in fair treatment for all and a victim of crime is a victim of crime and should be given equal treatment by the police. On the other hand if a person is deliberately targeted by an individual or group of individuals then they will need additional protection.
Let me give a personal example. I am disabled. Two weeks ago two young men tried to trick their way into my house. They did not succeed. I called the police who responded to my satisfaction.
Now here is the dilemma. I believe I was picked because I was disabled AND AN EASY TARGET. I do not think that the two scrotes involved HATED me. So was it a hate crime? (I had two white handles on either side of the door which advertised my disability. I have removed them).
I do not want the villains given tougher sentences than usual because the crime is considered a hate crime, but I would appreciate some consideration by the law of the fact that I am more likely to be a victim, perhaps easier access to a home defence pump action shotgun?
It's a no brainer. There should be no exceptions and the law should be applied equally regardless of pet status.
Criminal offences should be punished according to the offence committed not the nature of the victim in terms of their race, hairstyle or any other trivia. The punishments should be severe and above all mandatory.
It would be quite simple also to add a mandatory 30% on to the length of a sentence if the victim was GENUINELY vulnerable, i.e diabled, elderly, a child etc. This would benefit society at large by deterring the vermin from specifically targeting the vulnerable as they undoubtedly did in tonydj's case. They'd probably get off with a caution or suspended sentence under the current, pathetic pro-criminal British justice system. The reality is crimes such as targeting the disabled/elderly in this way should carry a mandatory 20 years hard labour. I guarantee the number of offences would plummet.
Important information for all dog owners.
I remember reading about an American case a few years ago where a man and woman con team inveigled their way into the home of a disabled, elderly war veteran neighbour on their trailer park. The man, in his 80s, was told in no uncertain terms he was coming to his bank and was going to withdraw some money for them. After an argument they grabbed hold of him and started to force him out of the door towards their car. Next to the door was a desk in which the old man kept his 1940s Colt .45 automatic pistol from the war, despite them both gripping him he manged to get it out of the drawer and instantly unloaded on the young woman shooting her twice through the liver and stomach, her accomplice ran off. The old man called the police who didn't arrest him (this is a sensible country we're talking about where the police aren't impartial THEY'RE ON THE SIDE OF THE LAW ABIDING) but picked up the bleeding woman and immediately arrested her on a charge of aggravated kidnapping. She was then taken to hospital but miraculously survived. Her accomplice was caught and both received 22 year sentences. The judge praised the veteran for his actions.
Imagine a similar scenario in lunatic Britain, the police and criminal justice system would have been desperate to prosecute the evil gun wielding old man who dared to defend himself and the the two scumbags would have got two years each at most, out in one.
Is targeting a vulnerable elderly person who suffers no physical ailment other than the rigors of time any worse than targeting a vulnerable person who is disabled because of a condition such as rheumatoid arthritis? No, of course not, in both cases the motives would be equally despicable. But bear in mind that in both cases the people may have been targeted because they were vulnerable, however one could be considered a ‘hate crime’ whereas the other could not, that is assuming the elderly person is indigenous White, Christian and straight.
The creation of a two tier justice system where crimes against certain groups or individuals are considered more serious than others is just plain wrong and totally divisive. If scum targeted a disabled person for violence or robbery just because the person was disabled why should that make the crime worse when it comes to sentencing than attacking a baby or elderly person who could also be considered vulnerable?
The poster at 21.29 has the correct solution. Sentencing should be appropriate for the crime and every crime should be dealt with in unbiased manner on an individual basis where the deeds of the crime are central to the case rather than as in some recent cases where Orwellian terms such as hate crime has been central to the prosecution case.
A victim is a victim is a victim. Creating a situation where some victims are dealt with differently than others is just plain wrong and in the long term it will totally undermine peoples belief in the whole criminal justice system.
TC The case for wrongful eviction, involving Paul Wilson (new charter)
Took place about three and half years ago.
The woman lived in Ashton.
Paul Wilson and new charter evicted her, made her homeless, charter took all her furniture to the tip.
She took them to court and won her case for wrongful eviction.
These people think, that they can just go around making people homeless.
TC News Charter say that I am telling lies about the Intensity of this situation (see link)
The stress that this brings into our our living space, is incredible.
These videos are evidence of this daily Intensity.
The big brother tentacles
in Tameside link Police,
Housing Associations,Radio,
Press,NHS,and Freemason links.
Its an army of Council linked associations which have been set up over the years and it financially feeds all the parasites involved.
We the Tameside Citizens who have brains are their enemy and all methods of control is their objective.
Its essential their implemented war is exposed at every move they make.
I always assumed the women in these organisations would have had a deeper
sense of justice,with more
female natural instincts kicking in to better society and control the more thuggish approaches of the male domination patterns.
However based on my observations.links and careful and objective scrutiny the Tameside female tentacles are as dangerous and without doubt
totally sycophantic towards
politicians.and their total objectives for power at all costs.
Female natural instincts in the power system are no more,and their age old scruples are defunct.
So to all Tameside female councillors i regret your inability to control this rush for power and money
which demeans your motherhood instincts, which
you have sacrificed and buried.
TC The idea is to bombard us with this daily crap, the idea, to cause as much trauma as possible.
bringing daily trauma, to ware us down with this awful noise.
I've completed all the punishments handed down to me, for having flags and poppies in my garden, but they are not satisfied with that.
Perhaps the loudest ranter in Denton West can tell us why life expectancy in his neighbourhood is the highest in the borough despite his absurd claims of lethal levels of deadly airborne pollutants?
Obviously because life expectancy depends on more factors than pollution.
Brenda said...
Perhaps the loudest ranter in Denton West can tell us why life expectancy in his neighbourhood is the highest in the borough despite his absurd claims of lethal levels of deadly airborne pollutants?
You never was the brightest
in what you dd.however your repeated comments are now a source of laughter to quite a few.
Having just a big mouth does not qualify you to take part in accurate realistic debates,so forget trying to be a competent
poster on TC its beyond your limited capabilities,
because you have firstly a terrible lousy memory. (its you who wrote your claim that we had the worst environment),want another copy ???.
Between you, your Anon,and Gwynne your definitely not fit people for a public post,and you could`nt even remember your were a Councillor ??? when you pretended and misled the House of Commons in writing that you had "No Paid Interests"whilst knowing you had at least 3 or 4 Interests from which you pocketed quite a few £thousands each year.
Do us all a favour and accept such behavior should eliminate you from
any public post.
The last time I encountered
you in a public meeting when it started I put my first fact to you,and you said I`m off and began packing your papers and leg it, with I`m not here for that.
Next time you see me in Morrison`s don`t vanish rapidly either,lots more to come your way and Gwynne`s
Study what AQMA designated locations are this weekend and learn something for a change,if you don`t have the TMBC Maps then I have 5 seperate one`s spread over a 12 years period.
Your definately loosing the plot,and like the TV advert says "you don`t even know it"
But I do !!
J.Hall
rd1512nanittiCouncillor Brenda Warrington Assistant to MP Andrew Gwynne on House of Commons Registers
TMBC appointments.
Areas of responsibility
Civic Mayor
Lead Member for Health and External Relations
Chair of Personal and Health Services Scrutiny Panel
Member of Overview (Audit) Panel
Member of Denton and Audenshaw District Assembly
Outside bodies on behalf of the Council
Member of Combined Authority Scrutiny Committee
Member of AGMA Health Scrutiny Panel
Member of Pennine Care (Mental Health) NHS Trust Joint Scrutiny Committee
Member of Regional and Sub-Regional Joint Scrutiny Committees
Hospital Trust Council of Members
Governor, Denton West End Primary
Other outside bodies
Federated governing body of Two Trees Sports College and Egerton Parks Arts College
Prescotts Charity Trust
Pennine Care (Mental Health) NHS Trust Joint Scrutiny Committee – member
Tameside Hospital Foundation Trust – member
Combined Authority Scrutiny Committee – member
AGMA Health Scrutiny Panel – member
Regional and Sub-Regional Joint Scrutiny Committee – member
Local Government Association Assembly - member
Denton West End Primary - governor
Fed. Governing Body T3SC - vice-chair
Governing body of Denton Community College - vice-chair
Association of Labour Councillor - member
LGA - member
Unite - member
Co-Operative Party - member
Denton Labour Club - member
..........................
"Now we can all see why the UK is in a crap state when no qualifications get you these posts.J.Hall
J Hall must be their absolute worst nightmare. Go on J Hall, stick it to them because they deserve it.
Double standards anyone?
Brenda Warrington, chair of the Tobacco Workers' Alliance (TWA), said people employed in the industry wanted to remind Tony Blair of earlier assurances from his office that "job impact assessment" will take place when the White Paper is published.The Tobacco Workers' Alliance members are alarmed that within two months of the publication of the White Paper on the future of tobacco, ministers are deaf to the industry's practical concerns about the effect of government policies on the UK tobacco market and the potential for thousands of job losses," she said.She added that tobacco jobs should be "thoroughly accounted for in the Regulatory Impact Assessment when the government finally announces its plans for the future of tobacco, and that our jobs will be safe for the future.
So once again an incident with our local Tameside Councillor who stuck two fingers up to the millions of passive smokers including children who end up with lungs again filled with dangerous toxins.and yet check out the 7 various local Health Committee`s and Panels she "now sits on".The words two faced would never be anywhere adequate to describe this local Tameside Councillor who was paid too lobby for more toxins into non smoking men,womem and children and also include foteus,but failed to show her paid interests on House of Commons register
Somehow that reminds me of other dangerrous toxins she prefers to dispute when all the substantiated maps,data,and evidence she prefers to sispute could it be possible she gets her kicks out of filling other innocent people with toxins if she learns to read the numerous forms of evidenceoffered to TC.
Talk about rumbled and defiant,so pack iy in Warrington and recognise your not fit for purpose as a Councillor for a toxic loaded Constituency unless of course you happen to be sitting alongside the Tameside pollution monitoring station in a green field up two treees lane looking out to the miles of countryside looking at the hills in the distance.
J.Hall
Keep it up Hall and I will imitate legal proceedings for libel.
Anonymous said...
Keep it up Hall and I will imitate legal proceedings for libel.
How does that work when
no-one knows who you are ???
I`m sure Hall would like to know who you are first.
Should be slung into prison. The noise coming from this place with constant barking is unbelievable.
Anonymous said...
Keep it up Hall and I will imitate legal proceedings for libel.
Whoever is launching this threat should consider known individuals including Anons who have classified me as a liar when I have been supplying substantiated truths to TC
have acted in a defamatory manner towards my character.
Let it be known that past
occurrences of accusing me or suggesting that I am a liar will be robustly dealt with.
3 Apologies to me were posted on TC by a frequent poster this past year which should not be forgotten.
I will not be intimidated into not posting accurate facts and my opinions of how TMBC individuals conduct themselves which are detrimental towards the electorate.
It is essential that true facts and resultant democratic opinions remain an option.
So anyone who is trying to stifle factual information
being offered to the public
is usurping human rights principles.
I myself have taken large doses of flack on TC by known individuals and those
who prefer to insult and remain anonymous which I have accepted and offered
contradictory statements of facts.
So if this latest threatening post has the intention of stopping the essential facts being offered to the Tameside public by myself should dwell on the the full ramifications of their threatening actions.
Opinions of myself by others have always been read and accepted regardless of such anons
diving for cover after insulting me.
To conclude, stifling information vital to the public who have to pay for
Councillors and others actions, should always remain in the public domain.
J.Hall
Imitating legal proceedings may be a fun hobby, but where do you vet the costumes and the people to play all the parts from?
Some funny posts on here recently.
More fake outrage/horror. Were the crowd really horrified by his jokes? were they hell! Just another way the media distorts the truth to meet their agenda of cultural Marxist thinking.
I am against "hate crimes", one should be punished based on what they did, not on what they thought, however, no one should be assualted, regardless of how wierd or unconventional the victim may seem. The attacker should be prosecuted. A crime was committed, in a civilized society you do not have a list of people or groups it is ok to harass or beat up.
Cosy well paid "partime "Tamesiode Councillors with their gut wrenching family nepotism makes them well off in Tameside
groups in Tameside.
The Welsh `s stash =£53,458 per year of your money
The Quinn`s stash = £84,314 per year of your money
The Lane`s stash = £39,984 per year of your money
The Holland`s stash =£39,984 per year of your money
The Gwynne`s stash = £96,739 (1 MP +1 Councillor plus MP`s extras) = ????? per year of your money
The Fitzpatrick`s stash= £55,309 per year of your money
The Smith`s stash £19,992 per year (Very strange why the TMBC List quotes simply Smith`s because Councillor M.Smith has a wife Councillor Teresa Smith
so is the £19,992 per year the accumulative total for the two Councillors or is it £19,992 each
Tameside's Tories slam increasing number of Labour 'couple' councillors standing in elections.
£389,788 Not bad for the seven family units getting your money for part time work,could they live off the £53.00 per week as described in the national press.
The are having a laugh whilst raiding your pockets and purses big time.
So who`s going to be the next joined up family of Councillors sat with your money in their banks,building societies,or other assets.J
Andrew Gwynne MP said:
“I support the worthwhile and important work of Carbon Monoxide Awareness. I am calling on the government to ensure that it’s funding carries on so it can continue to raise awareness of this deadly and silent killer.”
Approximately 4,000 people are diagnosed with low level carbon monoxide poisoning each year and that figure is just the tip of an iceberg because many cases go undetected. Around 200 are admitted to hospital annually and 50 people die.
Wot a hard faced git this
bloke is,he never tackles the local issues.
Google Boss says: that ever expanding drone technology is making smaller and cheaper models, including nano-drones, which could be used by nosy neighbors spying on each other in a dispute.
TMBC order already placed.
Google boss REALLY says "let's drum up some fake fears amongst the easily persuaded, get some kneejerk laws passed to ban private use. This clears the way for our new fleet of drones and lets us start google Skyview service with no competition, kerching!"
The reason Tameside and every other urban/semi-urban area's roads are getting ever more crammed despite the supposed drop in car use because of the recession is the out of control population.
Until the Labour traitors planned immigration tsunami, 2000 - 2008, we had a reasonably accurate estimate of the true population from the accurate census. Every ten years checkers went out and ensured forms were filled in accurately and correctly. That is until the 2011 census, which of course would have revealed the true horror of what Britain is facing. The rules were thrown out of the window and replaced by: 'OK you fill it in yourself, we'll trust you.'
The result is the official UK population of 62.6 million is a COMPLETE GUESS.
Several years ago Tesco's massive consumer footfall enabled them to do a population estimate for the UK, it was 77 million. I reckon the real figure is now well in excess of 80 million and rapidly rising as our borders are completely out of control and it's set to get a lot worse when we get ANOTHER mass influx from those twin jewels of Europe, Romania and Bulgaria in a fgew hundred days.
There's nothing you can do to stop the population increase. Even a complete halt to immigration would still see numbers in the ethnic minority communities continue to expand. And how would it be stopped? Repatriation, sterilisation??
The doubling of the muslim population each decade is not going to slow significantly. No government is coming along any time soon that will ban muslim 'Britons' from marrying illiterate Pakistanis and then importing them into our country. No government is going to invoke harsh sanctions against those who proliferate exponentially. The doubling of the muslim population was not something to worry about too much when they numbered 500,000, 1.8 million etc. Now at about 4-5 million, it isn't rocket science to understand that the crucial tipping point lies ahead over the next several decades. The latter half of the 20th century was merely the calm before the storm. The 21st century is where Britain and Europe stands at its most decisive crossroads for thousands of years.
I have a feeling their numbers will rise and then dwindle massively.
@serprentslayer
Thanks, but those of us living in the real world don't base our projections on 'feelings' alone, especially when staring into demographic oblivion within decades. The survival of the white race may be of no concern to a good woolly headed socialist like you, but some of us round here actually value the ethnic identity of Europe.
Would you go on this tc?
A police sergeant has been accused of attempting to censor stories in a local newspaper about a ‘controversial’ town councillor.
Paul Beale challenged the weekly paper over its ‘editorial policy’ after the councillor was upset by a critical article.
The officer telephoned the newspaper and later visited its offices where he spoke to an editor about its style of reporting.
Daily Mail readers comments say this Copper should be sacked.
It just shows what is going on,perhaps he and the Councillor are in the same Lodge,whatever the close links it stinks rotten
To assist Tameside Councillor Brenda Warrington
in a reasonable and practical way, the following was what she forgot to mention when completing House of Commons Registers of "Any Interests" and linked to Andrew Gwynne MP.
Hundreds of tobacco workers, led by Brenda Warrington, President of the MSF union and Chair of the Tobacco Workers Alliance, will rally at Richmond Terrace, Whitehall, at 1 o'clock on Wednesday November 22. At 1.30 pm, delegations proceed to No.10, the Department of Trade and Industry and the Department of Health to present protest postcards from workers at threatened tobacco factories in Southampton, Darlington, Nottingham and Lisnafillan (Northern Ireland).
Unions that destroy lives other than smokers.
Might be of possible interest to other Tamesiders
J.Hall
Here is a site that should shut up those in Tameside who pretend Air Pollution is of no consequence.
Seeing Tameside Air Quality Management Area`s are mapped
and released by TMBC which show large area`s that will not attain the required pollution levels required for safe living and "will damage "your health,its time you,your families and neighbors were made fully aware of what faces them concerning the serious diseases which will occur because of TMBC`s obsession with creating more and more traffic into our area`s.
MP Gwynne has the audacity to deliberately do nothing whatsoever regardless of the facts having been established for 12 years.
So whilst Councillors show a callous contempt for your families including tiny tots they enjoy trying to dispute the overwhelming and substantiated facts.
The local Advertiser/Reporter/M.E.N
and local Radio have decided to keep quiet,so in my opinion a large number of Councillors,MP`s and Media are acting in a complicit manner which definitely create serious diseases for many Tamesiders.
I find that deliberate gross negligence,vile, disgusting,obscene,
callous,contemptuous and worthy of calling it a criminal act not to safeguard the public of Tameside.
Why not let your friends and neighbors know all the facts which have been reported on Tameside Citizen over the past 2 years and at least show what the Labour dominant cartel are responsible for
in "Your Tameside".
Every word I offer is 100% totally accurate,and whether you don`t mind prematurely getting serious diseases maybe you children should be considerd.
http://uk.mg.bt.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.partner=bt-1&.rand=9fc2nmdujj876#mail
These updated warnings and reports arrive every week and TMBC need to brought to account for their deliberate and knowingly contempt for your health and welfare
J.Hall
I heard two blokes at work the other day going on and on about a football match as if it was something of real significance and importance. This in depth analysis of something extremely trivial no doubt occupies the attention and time of millions up and down the land.
Meanwhile the country is being destroyed by cranks, degenerates and Marxists in power, and the immigration tsunami and the ongoing mass breeding campaign that is designed to take over British communitites street by street and area by area.
Even ignorant, football obsessed morons now know what's going on, but hey, Ya Ya Yo Yo and his 900 grand a month pay packet is obviously of much greater import to the £6 an hour masses than the destruction of their country.
Peace, Love and Tolerance - woteva!
J Hall, you had an interesting response on your other thread about a citizen pollution monitoring system.
Why not pursue that, rather than responding constantly to someone who is just winding you up?
You don't really think that Brenda is real do you?
Black&blue, in what way exactly are Cameron and his millionaire chums Marxists?
Anonymous 22:59, they aren't which is why I didn't mention them.
The corridors of power: the civil service, political committees, QUANGOS, the BBC, influential think tanks, and of course the EU socialist project are all riddled with Marxists and associated groups.
Tameside and Glossop
Clinical Commissioning Group (CCG)
Have no intention of heeding
the serious dangers created by TMBC concerning Air Pollution because of their past and present links together.
The new Tameside Health Authority does however have a considerable internet site which in bold type says
"Know your Councillors in Tameside"
NHS Commissioning Board, Bulletin for proposed CCGs - 9th January 2013
So thereby suggesting Tameside Councillors might have the slightest interest in your Health and Welfare,whereas they are the culprits responsible for decisions creating air pollution.
The most cynical and dangerous move made by the BBC was its recent top job appointment of someone we all know well
Mr.James Purnell the phantom Ex MP who even had his image photo shopped
into a Tameside Hospital Press release.
The BBC is definately lining itself with Labour
and should be continually investigated for undemocratic actions as a so called independent Media
producer for the masses
Particulates and mirrors said...
J Hall, you had an interesting response on your other thread about a citizen pollution monitoring system.
With respect to this comment
who would pay the many thousands for a real time air pollution monitoring station,and because of its size planning position would be required by TMBC the very one`s who for 12 years have refused such a station for the benefit of the public as their Right To Know under European legistlation and the Aarhus Convention protocols.
I am constantly in touch with the Head of the Environment Organisation in the EEC telling him to persue the UK for failing the UK Public by constantly increasing dangerous pollution levels higher than any others EEC Member
Countries
J.Hall
I do care about preserving our races genetic integrity, very much so even. I was being more than a but flippant by saying I had a 'feeling' that the numbers of foreigners here would shrink. In truth I was thinking voluntary relocation followed by a push to the sea for those that remain belligerent.
Hall why don't you stand for election like we do rather than ranting away on the internet? You should respect your local elected representatives or do you oppose democracy?
Anonymous @ 0134
"Respect our local representatives"
What? That shower?
Democracy is an on going process
it is not a once a year event.
The lack of accountability of our councillors ensures that democracy in Tameside exists solely on the blogsites and in the few remaining pubs. With a local media largely owned by the council's cronies we have an ill informed electorate voting for any cretin with a Labour rosette .
TC What concerns me, is, that Alan Kibble (new charter) can just turn up at our house, mob-handed on the 6th of December 2012.
Without an appointment, or any announcement he's coming.
Hammering on the door like that, does he not concern himself with the Human Rights of individuals?
Roy West!
Anonymous said...
Hall why don't you stand for election like we do rather than ranting away on the internet? You should respect your local elected representatives or do you oppose democracy?
What`s this undiluted garbage from Anon.
Respect for the Tameside cretins who are as tick as planks.
Your having a laugh talking respect,if you was on fire
I wouldn`t waste urine on you.and imagine me sat in a Council Meeting with your types excuse me while I vomit from the thought.
J.Hall
Time for you to crawl back under your stone Anon
TC What concerns me, is, that Alan Kibble (new charter) can just turn up at our house, mob-handed on the 6th of December 2012.
Maybe that`s simply normal tactics in Holroyd where he lives.
Its only the craving for power which breeds in Tameside.
Let's get one thing straight Hall. You are a lone voice in the wilderness ranting for the sake of ranting on the other hand your lawfully elected local representatives deal with the everyday concerns of the people. We are accountable to the electorate and if we do a good job we get re-elected and if we don't we lose our seat. Put your cranky ideas to the electorate Hall and see how far you get. By the way, tell us why it is that your neighbourhood has the longest life expectancy in the borough despite your absurd claims of lethal levels of airborne pollutants?
TC If I did not share the following information with readers and posters on this blog, then folk would not know what is going on with the new charter bullies.
For People that believe in JUSTICE!
New Charter Housing officially stated in a court document, that they already know my defense in the cast to evict my disabled partner.
New Charter Housing say in this document, that, it is anticipated that West will rely heavily on his status as being a carer for his disabled partner.
Now can you believe that new charter statement in the face of JUSTICE?
Roy West!
There is too much power in the hands of the few in Tameside. That is the root cause of all these problems.
I would rather have high calibre men like Roy West, TC, TonyDJ and J Hall in charge, ruling unelected than morons elected by the ignorant.
Sooner will a camel pass through the eye of a needle than a great man will be found through an election, as the Fuhrer once said.
Anonymous said...
Let's get one thing straight Hall. You are a lone voice in the wilderness
You are simply a bag of wind blowing off in
desperation that I am chipping away at the bunch of cretins unfit for purpose.
I hope to unleash something that might cause TMBC a problem in explaining.
So watch out for the fickle finger of fate.
J.Hall
Come on why remain anonymous??? what are you scared of,obviously you wonder if your name might unleash some unpleasant facts.
J.Hall
Director Summary
Elaine Whiteley-Todd holds 5 current appointment, has resigned from 0 companies and held appointments at 0 dissolved companies. Elaine began thier first appointment at the age of 47 and their longest current appointment spans 2 years and 11 months at INSPIREDSPACES TAMESIDE LIMITED.
The combined cash at bank value for all of Elaine's current businesses is £13,591,000, with a combined assets value of £259,284,000 and liabilities of £258,980,000. Roles associated with Elaine Whiteley-Todd within the recorded businesses include: Local Government Officer
Registered Details
Short name: Elaine Whiteley-Todd
Year of Birth: 1963
Director ID: 915895397
Registered Address
Tameside Council Offices Wellington Road
Ashton-Under-Lyne
United Kingdom
OL6 6DL
Has anyone come across this women at Tameside Offices.
J.Hall
Well worth keeping up to date with the Tameside financial plans which affect you.
http://www.tameside.gov.uk/strategiccapital/18mar13/minutes
Could the following item be a loop hole for Tameside Council who could offer land favors to certain individuals and I quote from the meeting minutes:
"Local authorities are given powers under the Local Government Act 1972 to dispose of land in any manner they wish. The Government’s policy as stated in 2003 (Labour) is that local authorities and other public bodies should dispose of surplus land wherever possible. Generally it is expected that land should be sold for the best consideration reasonably obtainable. However, it is recognised that there may be circumstances where an authority considers it appropriate to dispose of land at an undervalue.
J.Hall
Injustice is going to sweep across this Country. You'll see!
This is how Tameside Executives parachute themselves into senior NHS
positions yet have no Health and Welfare
qualifications or background whatsoever.
So if it pays extra jump on board,you know it makes sense.
http://www.agma.gov.uk/cms_media/files/item_4.pdf?static=1
Amazing how TMBC Chief Executive Steven Pleasant has time to organise himself when you check out
his numerous spread about positions including 5 Directorships listed against his name
J.Hall
Lets open the pandora`s box
lid fully.
who would pay the many thousands for a real time air pollution monitoring station,and because of its size planning position would be required by TMBC the very one`s who for 12 years have refused such a station
J Hall, the poster on the other thread outlined a system of CITIZEN monitoring system which uses mobile technology to take pollution monitoring away from authorities and gives it back to those who are breathing it in every day.
Someone with your knowledge and interest might be able to encourage the adoption of such a system in Tameside.
If 'they' don't control it, then 'they' should not be able to affect its results.
Labour get re-elected repeatedly in Tameside because of an extremely low calibre, ignorant, self-interested electorate and mass apathy.
They control 15 or so wards and regularly get all their widespread network of contacts, union officials, local government employees, teachers, all the other associated state hangers on (20% of jobs are state jobs, the vast majority of whom vote Labour), their families, and of course the increasingly important 'community' vote who give their support en masse to whoever gives them what they want, to vote for them.
This, plus a few deluded OAPs and 'Labour 'til I die' morons adds up to the 1200 or so votes they need to win.
Due to pressure from the BNP etc in the last few years Labour have squeezed every drop of support and increased this by a few hundred. Despite all this the turnout is usually a pathetic 30% meaning Labour can easily control an entire metropilitan borough of 219,000 people with about 18,000 people, approximately 11% of the electorate.
The fault lies not with Labour, however vile and incompetent, it lies with the pathetically ignorant, selfish and inferior electorate, and even more with the apathetic dross who don't vote who should have their franchise removed, as should those patently too ignorant or uninformed to vote.
As the electorate, both locally and nationally, becomes mopre inferior and alien it looks increasingly likely that democracy could be the thing that destroys Britain as a recognisable entity.
Mr. Hall is a lone voice in the wilderness?
Is he indeed? I have found that most who have heard his arguments find him to be intelligent and well informed. Mr. Hall relies on people being interested enough in the public health to listen to him and to act on principle.
The local council rely on apathy and ignorance to keep their bread buttered. It is a damning indictment on the local population that scum fill the council chambers while our most intelligent and civic minded only have available internet blogs and underfunded election campaigns to have their voice heard.
Nonsense, the main parties have done an excellent job for Britain. In the space of a few decades their wise and well intentioned governance has turned us into an ethnic minority in our own capital city. If you wish to protest about this wonderful good news you are undoubtedly: evil; racist; haven't 'got your mind right' yet; or are too desperately unsophisticated to want to celebrate the destruction of your country.
Any White British person who still votes for them in the light of this most damning of all facts about our capital is either: thick; a traitor; insane; in total denial or is actively seeking the detruction of their own country.
No Serpent Stroker, that is where you are wrong. He thrives on trouble and has been a thorn in our side for many years. Instead of taking his gripes to the electorate by putting himself up as a candidate he uses the easy options such as the letters column of local newspapers and as of late this BlogSpot. The man is a born trouble causer and do don't be fooled by his play on environmental matters which he uses as camouflage to undermine the authority of local elected representatives.
"destroys Britain as a recognisable entity" What poppycock, Britain is evolving as it always has. Those who fear change do so because they lack faith in their ability to modernise with the times.
I'm sure the Khaleds who opposed Davros were just lacking enough faith to be replaced by something less human also. The red Indians must have failed to buy into a vision of their homeland being conquered too.
How do we 'modernise' exactly? Relinquish our homeland, our culture, our right to existence?
If such things are required of us then I say we do not make any attempts whatsoever to 'modernise', indeed if to fight back would be regressive, then I urge us to regress with every last breath in our lungs and every reserve of our collective spirit.
I do not want to see the world 'modernised' into a brown morass of slaves and oligarchs where every human emotion and thought is treated as illness, where all art is functional and used to reinforce the pyramidal power structure of degenerated tyrants, oh no, I would much rather see us reclaim our lands and send the foreigner to the sea and the tyrant to the flame!
Anonymous said...
No Serpent Stroker, that is where you are wrong. He thrives on trouble and has been a thorn in our side for many years.
Good you bloody well deserve it 100% because your all
greedy bas-----
@16/04/2013 12:13
Alan Kibble tried to frame me with a crowbar attack on a new charter office. On the 6th of July last year, Tameside County Court, the Judge was awake to what Kibble was trying to do. I'm not sure, but I think you can get to read what was said in court if you ask the court.
Just recently, Ivan Wright tried to get me charged on trumped up allegations.
Now Ivan Wright spends most of his time stalking me on the internet.
Very creepy man!
Roy West!
Obey us at Tameside Council or your a "trouble maker".
Could well be the utterances
of these as well.
KIM JONG IL, dAmini,
ROBERT MUGABE, FRANCOIS “PAPA DOC” DUVALIER,
THAN SHWE, AUGUSTO PINOCHET,
MUAMAR EL-GADHAFI , JOSEPH STALIN,
ADOLF HITLER , SADDAM HUSSEIN,
More locally. Councillor R.Oldham plus Present Anons,
What a nice description of
democracy.
I have to inform readers and posters on this blog, about a very strange meeting I had with Alan Kibble at Cavendish Street (new charter office)
It was some time back, but still fresh in my mind!
Kibble asked me who owned this blog, who was posting comments about blood sports.
He said it's not right, because you know how violent these animal rights extremists can be.
So no opposition to blood sports because
Alan Kibble thinks we are all violent extremists.
I think Mr Kibble should take notice of what the Judge said on the 6th July 2012.
On the subject of Free Speech and so on.
Roy West!
So Mr.A Kibble is acting as the moral conscience of Tameside.
Now that is really disturbing.
Serpent Slayer needs to pay more attention to current PC trends. The term ’Red Indian’ is a big no no these days. The people who were formerly known as Red Indians are now only to be referred to as ’Native Americans’. Calling them red Indians is almost as bad, in the minds of the PC enforcers, as calling a black person ’coloured’ or a person of mixed race heritage ‘half caste’. All three terms were acceptable a few years ago but the PC zealots are now pushing their agenda with such vigour that they feel comfortable with changing long established words without any real justification and as football pundit Alan Hanson recently discovered, if you get your blacks confused with your coloureds you can almost end up crucified on the alter of Political Correctness.
Anonyous 01:08, Britain isn't 'evolving in the way it always has', it is being forced to undergo a type and pace of change totally unprecednted in its history.
The sheer volume and unassimilability of the deliberately imported foreign masses of the last few decades, massively accelerated after 2000, has totally transformed the demographic, ethnic, linguistic and cultural face of Britain.
In many of our cities we are now an ethnic minority and becoming more so, daily and at an exponential rate. The school and particularly primary school demographics do not lie. We are being ethnically purged from a homeland land that was almost exclusively ours for thousands of years until a few decades ago. Those that came in the far past came in small numbers, were almost exclusively culturally similar, and crucially WANTED to assimilate, not form their own communities and commence a deliberate breeding campaign and pursuance of their own culture rather than assimilate into ours.
I don't 'fear change' I abhor the ongoing destruction of my country and its identity by hostile, massively expanding alien cultures within aided and abetted by tritors in power.
By 'modernise with the times' you mean eagerly capitulate as our culture, history and identity is destroyed, because it's easier to just accept 'the inevitable' and pretend you concur with WHATEVER happens when you lack the faith in your courage to fight back.
Nigger, Paki, Coon, Mick, Jock, Redneck, Bumbandit, Lezzer, Chink, Nip, Honkey, Spick, Greaser, Kraut, Wog, Shitstabber, Brownhatter, Frog, Wop, Dego, Gringo, Ivan, Carpet muncher, Aussie, Pom, Taffy, Sheepshagger, Paddy, Ginger, Golliwog, Sambo, Snowflake, Queer, etc are of course not illegal words, but the modern PC establishment has taken upon itself the mantle of deciding the CONTEXT in which these words are acceptable. In other words they'll say when and how you can use them and crucially, any punishment issued for using such words, in say the middle of a heated argument, will be grossly disproportionately punished as a lesson that YOU WILL CONFORM to the prevailing PC mantra or suffer the consequences.
Thankfully racist biggots who live in constant fear of change are a dwindling and dying breed. Give it another two decades and they'll all be dead or in care homes. By the time this country is racially plural the only original British left will have known nothing else and racist bigotry will be gone for ever.
Ps, I have reported the grossly offensive comment above to the police.
By 'racist bigots dwindling and dying out' you must be referring to the demise of the existing White majority, an unreasoning, abusive and racist remark which infers only White people are capble of racism. A grossly offensive comment which I have reported to the police.
It's racially plural now so the future reference is irrelevant.
Expressing joy at the extinction of indigenous people is abhorrent bigotry and racism of the worst kind.
Watch the news to see the anti-Thatcher protesters. They're pure and absolute scum. The exact kind of freakshow Taylor invited to Tameside to smear the BNP when they were a real electoral alternative to Labour.
Thus it is written, that the Son of Man will suffer, and will rise again from the dead, on the third day:
The Great Struggle Comes From The Faith Of The One True God!
Thanks SS@19.09, I like the sound of that. I could imagine the mere thought of a partnership between myself, Mr Hall, Tony DJ and Roy West running the council as being a vision from hell as far as certain members of the current TMBC ruling clique would be concerned. How about this for a new cabinet:
Tony DJ: Council Leader
Liam: Head of Finance
Reimer: Law and Order
Curmudgeon: Press Office and PR
J Hall: Environmental and Planning
Roy West: Video Archive
TC: Speed Bump Removal and Wildlife Protection
Serpent Slayer: Heraldry and Rune Reader
Bill: Keep Fit and Outdoor Leisure Pursuits
Anyone care to add to the list?
I think you just about covered it, I wouldn't mind some shove over libraries and galleries too though.
whoever this anonymous I and white British have argues with could be put in charge of 'positive thinking'.
All these wondeful people in t'pit villages love their communities so mcuh they've spent the last 30 years doing next to nothing to improve them, instead blaming an old woman who finished in active politics 23 years ago.
They believed, and still believe, they're 'special' and the rest of the country existed to prop up their failing industries. Perhaps if they and their communist union masters had been more reasonable and forward looking from the mid 50s on their communities wouldn't have ended up in the shit states they are now.
The high priest of the unions in the late 70s, T and G leader Jack Jones, is now known to have been in the pay of the KGB, nuff said.
It is interesting how the cover story of being 'anti-racist' is being used to ethnic cleanse homogenous nations into existence. This new Hitler video shows exactly how a real 'Hitler figure' would behave if he really did want to destroy a people or a country. It is not a light a hearted mocking video, it is deadly serious but presented in a light hearted way. It shows how anti-racism is being used as a weapon to destroy nations.
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