Has anyone passing through Denton or Haughton Green over the last week spotted the incredibly happy looking Asian chaps walking round waving at cars and pedestrians while wearing, yes wearing super size Domino’s pizza boxes? I saw them on a number of occasions and thought what an embarrassing sales gimmick and a guaranteed fail.
How wrong I was. When I drove past Domino’s at Crown Point tonight I was amazed to see it so busy that people were literally queuing out onto the street in a bid to get their hands on the ‘any pizza, any size for £5.99’ deal.. In fact the photo does not do the queue justice because there were other people queuing who were out of shot.
So there you have it, if you have a retail business which is struggling in these challenging times, put on a promotional offer, kit yourself out in a large gimmicky sandwich board advertising your wares and before you know it you will have customers queuing down the street.
142 comments:
Is Denton a predominantly asian area or is this yet another example of employment discrimination?
Whatever the case it shows the disrespect for human dignity that is inherent in a money driven society. Men walking around in cardboard boxes to inflate the profits of ruthless businessmen.
Globalisation drags people away from their mother soil, tongue and culture, places people in alien lands, all thoughts of their forefathers abandoned, and what for?
To sell more high calorie low nutrition junk food to the bloated remains of what once were called Englishmen!
I saw the cheerful chap today at the junction of Stamford road/Shepley road.
He seemed happy enough as I tooted my horn as I drove past.
I thought it was a brilliant marketing ploy, not often seen nowadays.
It's a job I would hate to do, but if it helped pay 'the bills' dress me up in pizza boxes and I'm your man.
I suppose some people would rather the welfare state pay all their bills and contribute nothing to society.
Muggins by name...
There is a point when taking pride in having a job crosses the border with exploitation and you become a mug or victim of exploitation.
In many countries that's already the case. In the western world, with it's chronic wage suppression and rocketing cost of living, it's getting very close.
All this to prop up capitalism, a system that once worked well for the vast majority but now increasingly looks like it's failing, and becoming instead a tool to make the elite wealthier and more powerful and oppress and exploit everyone else.
In my view anyone who'd take a job like that has got too little pride, or doesn't mind looking an idiot.
Too right, I'd rob banks before walking round dressed like a prick to maximise someone else's profits.
No Denton's predominantly white...but come back in twenty years.
The human pizza box might be an immigrant, they're easy to exploit and work for peanuts. Apparently Brits are too lazy. A few are, most of the rest have outrageous demands like, a fair day's pay for a fair day's work.
Sweeton was on Tameside FM today saying Hyde Market is to be halved in size and the site pedestrianised. This is bad news for Hyde.
TMBC have already played a significant part in making Denton and Droylsden 9th and 10th in the entire country for the highest percentage of closed down shops in the high street.
Sweeton was singing the praises of Crown Point North which has masses of free parking. He was then asked about the plan to charge motorists using the top two levels on the Hyde multistory and he said it was an economic necessity but his fellow Labourite councillor Peter Robinson insisted at the planning meeting thet charging is a must.
It is this kind of reckless behaviour that helped destroy Stalybridge as a shopping centre. These days there are more traffic wardens than shoppers in Stalybridge.
So some one gets off their backside to promote a fastfood joint.
The fastfood joint is now packed out,returning healthy profits, and the usual queens on here think it's wrong.
Me thinks the ladies do protest to much.
Ghost Town I went to the public event for Hyde Market and Civic Square. The plans look great for Hyde. Yes the market will be reduced but with new stalls, a new Civic Square and other plans Sweeton needs congratulating. At least Hyde is not being forgotten. And the council are not giving up on the market. The plans as I saw them also allows for the market to expand again if it needs to. And listening to the Market Traders they were all up for the changes
Cllr John Taylor wants to shoot the London rioters, yet he himself is a nasty, violent, crazed individual.
Wazzy Bourdain - German / Turkish Döner Kebab
Whatever is written on this blog about Cllr John Taylor he is a decent guy and Mr West can try and change the subject being debated but no-one is listening. Come on Roy get over it.
Well you are obviously listening.
Yep he's a decent guy.
He's a nasty, violent, man.
Decent guy that incites violence in the Community.
Regarding Hyde I reckon it has one of the most disgusting town centre parking area`s opposite Iceland.
For years TMBC have done nothing to address the mud,potholes,and pockets of water which are features of this Car Park and then have the audacity to charge one of the highest rates in Greater Manchester.
In winter its been an utter disgrace as a car park,but then that`s our penalty for having a scum filled Council for years.
Exactly, John is loved in this community that is why he gets elected every time he stands for election. On the other hand West gets rejected every time he stands. It seems to me that West is suffering from jealous bad loser syndrome.
West, the electorate overwhelmingly rejected you and voted for John. Get over it and stop your petty vendetta against him.
Anon@08.49, Where can I see the plans for the proposed development planned for Hyde?
I remember when our market was booming and I am sure with investment and free parking it could boom once again.
Duki voter he get elected by care home votes, hundreds of them.
Pepole get what they deserve. And a street thug on £200,000 in the last 8 years is what they've got.
I have a new leaflet with his expenses details.
Going down well.
Right, come on Roy. Time to stop this nonsense once and for all. Face the facts, the electorate rejected you and voted in John. They voted for John because he is a gentleman and champion for the people of Duki. Try accepting your defeat in an honourable way as other candidates do. You are doing your own and your parties prospects for the future no good with your vendetta campaign.
Come on Roy, be a real man and take your defeat like a man instead of a spoilt crybaby who cannot accept losing.
Now tell us your opinion on the pizza promotion and the redevelopment of neighbouring Hyde. Let us hear how you think Duki can reinvigorated and prove to us that there is more to your political world than your constant campaign against your local democraticly elected councillors.
Come on Roy, time to grow up and convince me why I should vote for you instead of constantly telling people why to not vote for your opponent.
No more blue links to videos. Let's debate here and now Roy. Let's see what your metal is made of.
Ghost Town. If you contact the council I'm sure they have plans. New market stalls are planned and over £1 million investment in Hyde. I don't agree with the free parking. Most towns charge for parking. I'm happy to pay wherever I visit or I find free on street parking and walk. I think too many people blame car park charges for the plight of town centers. Personally I don't mind paying the couple of quid to park. It's just I don't have so much cash to spend these days cos it's all going on gas, electricity, car insurance etc
I'm with Duki Voter. John has done a lot of good for Dukinfield and the people of Dukinfield which is why he gets voted in. The only time I've seen him angry is when West is following down the street with a video. don't blame JT for that. West is the problem. He needs to grow up.
Anon, take my word. One of the main reasons why Crown Point North, the Trafford Centre and supermarkets succeed while small traditional town centres fail is down to free parking. Petty as it may seem, especially when someone is on a shopping expedition where they may spend £100’s, they still resent paying £2 to park the car and they would sooner use £5 in petrol to drive to shopping location where they can park for free. I know it sounds illogical but that is human nature for you.
Duki voter come on stop taking the bait like you accuse me of doing.
I'm in a new party now ready for a new challenge.
I would most definitely warn people not to send any personal details to John Cooke of Tameside ukip.
More than likely CHANCE, your personal details will find their way into the hands of criminal uaf/searchlight.
ukip have a history of passing on your details to far-left groups.
I must add, Tameside has the most incredibly infuriating parking ticket dispensers in the whole of Britain if not the world. The ridiculous ritual of entering your registration number on a badly designed non-intuitive key pad is enough to make anyone blow their top. You try going through that rigmarole on wet windy day and then realising you don’t know your registration number and have to walk back across the car park to get it, then enter it on the annoying non-qwerty keypad, then pay and walk back across the wet and windy car park to stick it on your windscreen. You then arrive back from shopping two minutes after your ticket expired and find a £60 fixed penalty noticed stuck to your windscreen. I have watched over-zealous traffic wardens hovering around cars in Ashton waiting for the tickets to expire so they can pounce with their fixed penalty notice.
So that's it Roy, you are in a new party and your only policy is attacking your democraticly elected councillors? First rule of politics Roy is give the electorate a possitive message. You need to rethink your strategy if you ever hope to get elected.
So what about the pizza promotion and redevelopment of Hyde?
I am disappointed in you Roy. I thought you may have been able to engage in serious political debate but your speciality appears to be nothing other than muck slinging.
You refuse to talk about Denton so lets talk about our beloved Duki. Let me hear your opinion and argument either for against traffic calming on Boyds Walk.
Thank you Roy. So if your were a councillor what would you propose to do to stop the speeding maniacs?
You see: Community action is the key to get things done.
Like here for example, in relation to New Charter.
Muggins, I'm starting a cotton plantation. I've got a picking job for you, it pays 3p an hour and you get whippped regular as clockwork and treated like shit. You'll love it.
You see: Community action wants to know who is stealing the Iron Grids in Dukinfield?
Duki Voter, Taylor gets voted in because he wears a red rosette.
Large numbers of the Borough's voters are of low intelligence and automatically vote Labour locally and nationally. Despite them nearly wrecking the economy, their policy of uncontrolled mass immigration ( I've never met a labour voter not vehemently opposed to it, but they still vote Labour), and all the other damage they did to Britain in thirteen years of misrule.
Tameside Labour's 'use' of the totally insecure postal voting system, manipulation of the local Press, and use of Labour funded far left groups if things look tight helps keep things 'healthy'. Plus probably the worst Tory opposition group in the country. If Taylor retired tomorrow any successor standing for Labour would win easily.
Stand against them if you want to find out what a vile organisation they really are.
Dear Duki voter
Just like the time, I wanted the police to act on the menace of illegal mini-motorbikes in Dukinfield.
Why the police don't act right away is always a puzzle to residents.
Duki voter is more than likely a Taylor clone.
Or one of these arse holes that believes everything they read in the Labot/Advertiser
Muggins, it's nice to know you're so concerned about increasing the already vast profit margins of a bunch of strangers.
I don't think the fast-food crud sector is going to save Britain's economy or make the Chinese or Indian economies, with all that readily available sweatshop labour, worry too much.
Perhaps we should follow their example, lower the minimum wage to £3 an hour and make people do a 70 hour week. After all it would get the economy going.
Work makes free, did nobody tell you sarcasm is the lowest form of wit?
I cannot argue with that Roy. That is a sensible answer. A public consultation and rigorous law enforcement would be an option worth considering.
Now if you give up your obsession with John and start focusing on matters which are relevant to the local community you might get more votes next time you stand for election.
Duki Voter
I already do focus on matters which are relevant to the local community.
Duki voter you have no idea of how the political process works.
You have never had to endure smear and allegation.
So F*** Off back under the stone of which you crawed out from under.
So Duki voter so tell me what experiences do you have standing in local elections?
Having vile smear, and allegations agianst you in leaflets?
You no nothing about it, do you?. You just sound like a gobshite who knows jack.
Ghost Town. I think you will find it's not the free car parking but the shops that attract people to the Trafford Centre etc. And don't be fooled into thinking it's free parking. The Managing Agents will be covering the car park provision in it's rent to retailers. They in turn will be passing it onto customers via charges etc. It's so easy to blame car park charges and local councils for the changing shopping habits of people. Out of town shopping is what people want and they are happy to pay for their car parking via the charges in the shops. And then blame car park charges for the demise of traditional town centers.
Anon@14.51. I speak from personal experience and I assure you that free car parking is a major contributing factor to a successful shopping area. You quote the Trafford Centre but ignore Crown Point North. CPN is not ‘out of town’, it is in the heart of Denton. I have already said I find the mentality of people who would prefer to drive just to get free parking strange, but I am afraid it is fact of life.
The only way small towns shops in places like Hyde can survive is if the council takes a long term approach and makes them car friendly. Forget all the bull about environmental targets and public transport. People like to go shopping in their cars and if that becomes difficult in one location they will simply move to next destination which is car friendly.
Ghost Town. I did not miss out Denton Crown Point deliberately and I agree with you to a point. If you look at Crown Point North it offers the shoppers what they want. the retailers want to go to these units and the shoppers want to go there. The so called free parking is paid through the charges the shops make. This is what is affecting town centres and free parking in Hyde, Stalybridge will not have an effect on the town centre shops. This is a fact because if you look at Stalybridge you can park free on Tesco and Aldi. in Hyde there are plenty of on street 'free' perking as well as free parking at Morrisons and £1 at Asda. The fact is people will go to destinations like Crown Point North, Trafford Centre for the shops. So called free parking might be a bonus but that is not stopping shopping in Hyde and Stalybridge. Peoples shopping habits have changed and we need to understand that. It is so simple to blame car park charges for the plight of town centers.
Dear "knows Jack" Duki voter.
Still waiting for you to answer the question.
What experiences do you have standing in local elections, being subjected to Labour smear and allegations?
Labour using third party organisations to spread smear and allegation.
Lets FACE it Duki voter, you know nothing about it do you?
It's one thing posting on here thinking you know something.
I am not Duki Voter but totally agree with him. Knocking local councillors is not the way to change things. if you can't get elected then you can't get elected, And those posters who insult labour voters don't deserve a voice. This country is based on democracy and to insult people who chose to vote for a political party is at best childish
The social housing requirements of new immigrants will cost the tax payer £1 billion a year for the next twenty five years. That is the conclusion of a study published by Migrationwatch today.
The study found that 45 additional social homes would have to be built every day, or nearly 1400 a month, over that period to meet the extra demand.
The failure to build local authority housing to compensate for council houses that have been sold off led to a fall of about half a million in the number of social homes available between 1997 and 2007. This, combined with high levels of immigration, has led to an increase of nearly 60% in the waiting lists for social housing in England over the last eight years.
Anon@15.21. It is difficult to disagree with much of what you say but we will never see eye to eye on the parking issue. In my opinion what the council gains in parking fees and fines it loses in business rates and other spin-offs gained from having bustling and vibrant town centres.
Take a trip to Chelmsford in Essex and see their bustling town traditional town centre, Altringham is another to look at. Both are car friendly and as a result they attract the custom which attracts the well known stores and the cycle repeats just as does the unfortunate cycle which is now hampering the prosperity of Hyde and Stalybridge town centres.
Could we meet in the middle and suggest that one possible way out of this cycle for the unfortunate towns in decline would be for them to specialise and exploit the fact they have a daily market or some other unique selling point which would reinvigorate and stem the decline?
It's also wrong to assault people, spread rumour and allegation, knock on neighbours doors trying to incite violence
But that does not stop The Deputy Leader of Tameside Council.
Does it?
Well said anon@15.39
Don’t attack your opponents and people who vote for them. Make a good impression on the electorate and convince them you offer better solutions for the community than the incumbents and you will be rewarded by getting their votes.
I’m off to join the queue for Pizza in Denton now. CYA
Yes well said anonymous we need more Councillors like Jim Fitzpatrick.
On £200,000 last 4 years, and working for the criminal led Searchlight organisation.
Ghost Town. I don't think we disagree too much. I think much of it will be simple economics. In terms of town centres we need to ensure towns like Hyde specialise and from what I see of the council's new plans this should give Hyde the opportunity of becoming a thriving market town with specialised small retailers to compliment. I suppose we have to recognise that the soical problems that we have in urban areas like Tameside e.g Social Services, poor housing etc means that car parking fees help balance the books.
Yes I totally agree on the need to make a good impression.
To show class and dignity, to be a good example to others in public office.
As deputy Leader I can offer all these things as you can see.
As Deputy Leader Of Tameside Council, I can use my position to master the art of political thuggery.
I can cover my back by using third party organisations like uaf and searchlight.
Along with using high ranking Councillors like Jim Fitpatrick to do my dirty work for me, it's an easy option to play.
I know that the borough solicitor will always turn a blind eye to my methods.
And I can count on the police if I need to turn the screw on any political opponent.
Along with the postal votes and care home votes, it's a walk in the park everytime.
How much have you scrounged in benefits over the last eight years Mr West, how much income tax have you paid ,how much national insurance have you paid, how much council tax have you paid, how much rent have you paid, take some good advice if your running a campaign against elected officials who get paid from the public purse, take a very long look at what you get for doing nothing.
Give us a break down of your weekly benefits,am I right in thinking you have been on benefits all your adult life,taking huge amounts of tax payers hard earned money and never ever paid a penny into the system.
Maybe this should be made public a list of all claimants and the amounts they receive,it is tax payers money.
Final point how much have you paid towards these elected officials expenses.
Councillor Jim old chap! I told you all that the other day.
But I think you were to drunk to take it in.
Mr West. Yes you need to come clean on this blog as to how much public money you have taken in benefits. You might want to consistently point out the monies that Cllrs Taylor and Fitzpatrick have received but I see them undertaking public duties on a daily basis including evenings and weekends. Call them if you wish but as 'People in Glass Houses' points out you are in no position to criticize. And how about getting rid of that video camera of yours on eBay.
Mr West. We are sick of seeing that tired old video of yours.
Oh and who said you?
Ha ha.
The crooks that run Tameside Council need to come clean and justify.
Ha.....laugh on a Sunday.
Jim Fitzpatrick (drunk)
Basic Allowance - £11,640.00
Special Responsibility Allowance - £20,099.00
Broadband Allowance - £249.96
Total - £31,988.96
Philip Fitzpatrick (drunk)
Basic Allowance - £11,640.00
Special Responsibility Allowance - £9,581.00
Total - £21,221.00
"Mr West. We are sick of seeing that tired old video of yours".
Don't watch it then.
Dear Philip you know, that was actually assault on your part.
Pushing past that Tory guy like that.
He wasn't too happy with your behaviour that night at the count.
So where's the £200,000 in 4 years. Your sums don't add up. Mr West you haven't told us how much in benefits you have taken in 4 years
Dear Councillor Jim Fitzpatrick.
Now that I've found out you are posting on here, and I've got your attention.
Can you stop sneaking round Dukinfield posting third party smear leaflets.
And trying to incite violence?
And do you know this organisation is criminal led?
Well said people in Glass houses ,you beat me to it talk about hard faced. I would guess with his free rent and free council tax, he gets over £20,000 a year in benefits for doing nothing.
Anyone out there with benefit knowledge could you print the rates so we can do a list for Mr West, I know the rent on my semi is £120 per week and I pay £140 per month council tax.
He wont be on job seekers because hes never looked for a job.
There is no Labour Party, only New Labour, the Party that spent twelve years building up a client state of professional benefits abusers, the Party that deliberately opened the immigration floodgates to 'rub our noses in it', the Party that took the economy to virtual economic ruin with its criminally reckless overspending and chronic financial mismanagement.
The other two are only slightly better but as a means of getting rid of the worst government in British history, they were just worth voting for.
Anyone who would vote for such a Party (even Tory haters etc who should have just abstained or voted for a minor Party) is a moron, a traitor or has a vested interest.
Greedy
£31,988.96
£34,045.62
£31,877.63
£31,044.34
£27,157.00
£24,384.07
£19,251.50
And works for the criminal led searchlight posting smear leaflets.
Mr West. I'm not Cllr Fitzpatrick. Tell us how much in benefits you receive. Why are you silent on this point?
West. Where's the £200,000 in 4 years. Still can't see it
Can someone remind me of the election result in the Dukinfield ward in May ,just want to update my records I am informed that the BNP ran a huge campaign even offered to work for nothing ,this resulted ina huge vote for the candidate a big increase on previous years efforts. can someone let me know please.
Thank god for decent councillors like Taylor and Fitzpatrick. We get saved from the likes of Mr West. Worth every penny I say.
Labour won by a mile. West was well beaten
Everytime you turn up at these local elections counts.
It's the same thing, Labour Councillors stinking of booze.
That place smells like a pub.
'To insult people who choose to vote for a political party is at best childish.'
To give the vote to people too thick to explain why they are voting for a particular party is at best national suicide.
This country IS based on democracy, for instance a Commonwealth citizen who sets foot here gets instant, full voting rights. They might know nothing about, or have no loyalty to our country, and indeed might hate us but they're given full voting rights. So are EU citizens for European and council elections.
The exploding underclass, many of whom are unemployable, criminal parasites are given full voting rights.
This country is based on democracy but as the number of mentally stunted people increases and the number of foreigners, with their own agendas, increases, democracy could be the sysyem that destroys us.
Thank God for Labour Councillors, that sneak around the community posting third party smear leaflets.
Trying to incite violence against their political oppnents.
Ah! Labour!
Or Mr West sneaking around the streets with video camera. How much does this guy get?
Is that the best you can come up with?
Re car parking fees, perhaps we could scrap them as no-one is seriously suggesting that would have anything other than a beneficial effect on town centres.
The money could come from getting rid of two-thirds of our 57 councillors which currently costs £1.25 million a year. We don't need one councillor for every 3700 people, in a boom let alone a recession. Also cut Steven Pleasant's salary by 25%, that would save another £46,000.
But of course as we know, the upper echelons of the public sector are exempt from the effects of the recession, that's for the ordinary people, like the ones who are completely skint of have had a pay cut or have lost their job, who now have to pay to find the money to pay to park. The expansion of such schemes is utter lunacy in a recession, but the massive money sponge that is TMBC needs the money. If the council was a private concern it would have gone bust with mega debts decades ago.
Jim how much money are you getting to push hard for this Tesco in Hattersley?
Why are you pushing so hard on behalf of Tesco?
Perhaps those criticising Mr West for claiming benefits would care to criticise the Somali community (or the lunatic traitors who let them in) for claiming £2billion a year in State assistance. They have a 90% unemployment rate.
Don't be daft, it's not their fault. They're ethnics.
But the Somali's aren't on this blog criticizing the income of others. Mr West is. I think it only right we know the incomes of both sides so we can make a judgement. West is claiming the monies received by certain councillors is wrong. Then let's judge that against Mr Wests income
"Mr West. I'm not Cllr Fitzpatrick. Tell us how much in benefits you receive. Why are you silent on this point"?
Because it's none of your buisness, and I don't share my personal details to anonymous gob shites like you.
But Mr West. You want to critics others but not the amount of money you take from the public purse. Hypocrisy I say. I may be a gob shite but I've always worked and paid taxes
Disgraced Labour Councillor
Andrew Doubleday.
Basic Allowance - £11,640.00
Special Responsibility Allowance - £8,352.00
Broadband Allowance - £249.96
Greater Manchester Waste Disposal Authority - £2,001.00
Total - £22,242.96
Main Party supporters and the vast majority of the public have sat back for years while Labour and now the coalition flood the country with immigrants, massive numbers of whom live on or claim benefits.
Every person let in from Pakistan/India/Bangladesh brings an average of 22 dependents in over the following few years. Many are elderly relatives who will receive the full benefit of Britain's largesse despite contributing nothing.
The whole immigration system is a shambolic, out of control, destructive mess that is destroying Britain from within.
The Somalis aren't on here because four out of five can't communicate in English. Presumably the £2billion is fine by you and the £80 a week the local looney's getting is of the utmost importance.
Andrew Doubleday. Well worth the money.
"But Mr West. You want to critics others but not the amount of money you take from the public purse. Hypocrisy I say. I may be a gob shite but I've always worked and paid taxes"
But your an anonymous gobshite why on earth would I share my personal details with you?
Labour Councillors expenses are there for the public to see.
I would share my details with an anonymous poster on here?
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Black lie-in...we could maybe debate the bigger issues that you raise but for the fact that the local looney just hijacks each debate with data on local councilors expenses. I'm trying to let him know that he's guilty of hypocrisy. Then we can debate the bigger issues.
Jackie Lane
Basic Allowance - £11,640.00
Special Responsibility Allowance - £8,352.00
Total - £19,992.00
Dawson Lane
Basic Allowance - £11,640.00
Special Responsibility Allowance - £8,352.00
Deputy Mayoral Allowance - £3,840.00
Total - £23,832.00
Labour Lord Sheldon: £109,000 in expenses for a house he didn't own. Police action taken, none. Criticism by Tameside Labour: None.
"Black lie-in...we could maybe debate the bigger issues that you raise but for the fact that the local looney just hijacks each debate with data on local councilors expenses. I'm trying to let him know that he's guilty of hypocrisy. Then we can debate the bigger issues".
And your anonymous gobshite who cares?
Because Mr West I have worked for the last 40 years and aid my taxes. I think I have a right to question you just as much as you question local councillors. It's just that the local councillors are more transparent. We all know what they receive whether we agree or not. But as for you...you just want to take from my taxes and not be so transparent.
Barrie Holland
Basic Allowance - £11,640.00
Special Responsibility Allowance - £8,352.00
Total - £19,992.00
Ann Holland
Basic Allowance - £11,640.00
Special Responsibility Allowance - £8,352.00
Total - £19,992.00
taylor's share of the vote has been going up and westy's share has been going down. it's an open and shut case, duki wants taylor not west
say what you like about the allowances they get i'd want more than 11 grand a year basic to put up with a psycho like westy on my case, wouldn't you? how would you feel with a weirdo hanging about with a camcorder outside your gaff?
westy should be grateful he lives in a liberal democracy. in the fascist regime he's campaigning for they'd chuck him in a loony bin and throw away the key, that is if they didn't exterminate him as untermenschen
c'mon westy, show us the money, how much are we funding you? if you are too mad to work i'm happy to fund you as care in the community, but you shouldn't go about pesting community champions like taylor. your antisocial behaviour is no better than the rioters.
time to get a grip and deal with your demons on the shrink's couch -not on youtube
Yes, he's a bit of a dick and might be a hypocrite, but Britain 2011 is chock full of far worse people and behaviour, who the public and establishemt conveniently avert their eyes from, THAT'S hypocrisy of the worst order.
But what do you want me to do about that? present you with a medal John?
Mark Anning everyone is an hypocrite, there's two kinds of them.
You work it out.
I've nothing to approach myself with.
Certainly won't answer to anonymous posters on here.
Allison Gwynne
Basic Allowance - £11,640.00
Special Responsibility Allowance - £20,099.00
Total - £31,739.00
Cooney, G
Executive Member - Lifelong Learning Services
Basic Allowance - £11,640.00
Special Responsibility Allowance - £20,099.00
Broadband Allowance - £249.96
Total - £31,988.96
All these councillors are worth it Mr West. You take public monies and do naff all for it. Get over it. The people of Dukinfield voted for Taylor and others. Decent, hard working local Labour councillors
taylor voter why do you feel the need to tell me all that?
The only thing that matters to him, is making money and his holidays, his house in the sun.
If you vote for him so what! do you need approval from me?
You are probably one of them. Most people don't think they are worth the money.
And no one in Dukinfield believes that, £430,000 in the last 8 years for Taylor/Wild/Lane is worth it.
And my new leaflet is getting that response from residents.
Mr West you seem a wee bit embarrassed about your own allowances. I wonder why? A bet over 8 years they add up a fair bit. Probably more than all 3 Dukinfield councillors put together.
Not as much as you seem to be embarrassed staying in the shadows.
Are you lonely and need someone to talk to?
Go and see if John Taylor will take you on holiday to see sticky vicky
I'm not lonely. Far from it. Just enjoy challenging a dick like you
And how are you doing that?
You don't have the courage to be upfront with your questions.
Your an anonympous prick.
Ha lol
'The land of easy money': How the Somali woman who lied to claim asylum and £250,000 in benefit handouts described Britain
Mr West. My question up front is how much public moneyndo you get by way of rent and allowances.?
Anonymous when you want to challenge someone, you need to be upfront.
Not hide in the shadows like you do!
Do you lack the courage to step out of the shadows?
Thats what cowards do hide in the shadows.
I am anonymous now so give us the facts Mr West
"Mr West. My question up front is how much public moneyndo you get by way of rent and allowances.?"
But who are you? who is asking for my personal details
Mr West. I'm Ronnie Rabbit. My point is you seem to take great delight in posting councillor details. Why not give us yours?
Ok Ronnie Rabbit I'll post all my personal details on this blog.
I wish threads wouldnt always go this way, I've said it before and I'll say it again, not every discussion has to end up about that ex-con Liebour parasite Taylor.
Nonetheless I have to stick up for Roy here. Roy works tirelessly (and I mean tirelessly) to expose the corruption and the greed of TMBC.
There plenty of others on far greater amounts of benefits who sit around, eat junk food, raise shitty low quality chav and/or mongrel children and are happy to make their neighbours lives hell.
On the other hand, Roys neighbour has done his best to make Roys life hell all over some petty argument they had.
Roy knows that in being so vocal he will attract the insults and slander of people who want to bleed this nation dry and turn it into a third world cesspit under the direct control of EU Marxists, and yet he carries on and takes all the shit that people throw at him.
Its easy to snipe at Roy and people like him but its much harder to fight campaign after campaign against vested powers and the opinionated and ignorant masses like Roy and a brave few others do.
"Mr West. I'm Ronnie Rabbit. My point is you seem to take great delight in posting councillor details. Why not give us yours"?
Because it's none of your business.
But if you come round to my house and ask me, I'll consider telling you.
SerpentSlayer I've got some Tee shirts done for Hyde DA.
Jim Fitzpatrick won't like to see it.
But he's going to.
Serpentslayer the debate earlier today was about our town centers and what could be done to invigorate them. unfortunately mr west whom you defend started with his usual posts of telling us all again what councillor expenses are. No debate just a load of figures. So the debates go from bad to worse because West cannot debate but just go on and on with the usual rubbish. He is not exposing anything. All councillor expenses are available for all to see.
Oh and he's got some T shirts. Great
The tactic is, to go to these council events/meetings wearing these tee shirts, of Cllrs expenses.
I know they don't like it up em.
Like Fitzpatrick kicking off with me the other week at the Town Hall.
People don't like these cllrs expenses, so why not advertise their expenses.
I've already got these expenses leaflets coming soon.
Ronnie Rabbit most people don't know how much these cllrs are making.
You can see that with the response of my expenses leaflet.
most people don't go on the internet.
Ok Roy but what is your point? Are you proposing unpaid councillors? How does Tameside councillor expenses compare? To just keep quoting them might initially shock those not aware but then they may think basic allowances of £11k s more than reasonable
SerpentSlayer the FACT, that, taylor/wild/lane has cost the people of Dukinfield £430,000 in the last 8 years, shocks people.
I know because I'm putting out a leaflet about the scam at the moment.
People are angry that Taylor's made £200,000 in the last 8 years.
It's the best leaflet I've put out.
Leaving aside the last BNP card.
Congratulations on paying taxes for the last 40 years. You must be delighted all that money's gone to turning large parts of Britain into rapidly growing Third World cesspits.
There are a few comments which appear to have been posted here in the heat of the moment. If anyone feels their reputation is being harmed by allegations being made please email me and point me in the right direction and I will be happy to delete them.
I was quite enjoying reading the debate about the regeneration of small towns until everything went off on a tangent of its own. I think I will scan and post the article from this weeks Advertiser about parking revenues so the topic can be debated more thoroughly.
Anyone who's worked all their life must wonder why they bothered. Anyone who's worked all their life and still votes main Party, or even worse Labour, is a total cretin.
Dhimmigration you must be joking the prick can't take that fact on board.
Zimbabwe immigrants account for half of Aids cases in UK.
You can see them stood outside the pubs and even Labour Clubs having a smoke in the freezing cold and rain. Their own Party, desperate to suck up to the EU, rammed through the smoking ban that's finished thousands of pubs and clubs. Other countries like Portugal and the Netherlands ignored it, looked out for their citizens and demanded exemptions.
But those pillocks, freezing while they have a fag still vote Labour.
Britain still a magnet for oppressed Zimbabweans (see link)
You will wake up one morning and be very angry.
But for now you'll carry on regardless, but as time goes on it will get worse while you sleep the long sleep.
Foreign gangs and 30,000 criminals rob 'soft touch' Britain of £40billion a year.
Africa = Shithole. This has nothing to do with the fact it's full of Africans, apparently.
If we invite an ever growing number to our tiny, massively overcrowded island they'll adopt our ways, mend theirs, and we'll all live happily ever after, apparently.
They won't drag this country down to the level of the one they came from, apparently.
Aids-infected asylum seekers 'overwhelm UK hospitals'
Blackguard It gets worse for Britain nothing has changed since this 2003 report it's getting worse by the day.
Don't forget, rampant promiscuity in sub-saharan Africa's got nothing to do with the AIDS epidemic, apparently.
Nothing is ever their fault, apparently.
Come Roy tell us how much you scrounge each week from the benefits system you love so much.
A shocking catalogue of costly mistakes at the Home Office’s UK Border Agency meant £26million had to be written off in the last financial year.
And the agency paid out £13million of benefits in error to would-be refugees since April 2008.
Astonishingly, a further £41million has had to be set aside in special accounts to cover more bungles,
including bad debts, overpayments and compensation claims, this year.
The agency’s accounts reveal £12million was overpaid last year to just six hostel owners for providing asylum seekers’ accommodation.
Embarrassingly for the agency’s Home Office bosses, £4.3million ended up incorrectly in the pockets of the agency’s own staff.
Failure to update salary changes and annual leave entitlements on payroll systems meant the agency overpaid more than 2,500 employees by an average of about £1,700 each.
Meanwhile three refugees who were unlawfully detained while border officials investigated their claims ended up being paid more than £330,000 each last year in compensation.
And settlements worth £2.1million were reached with 40 under-18s who were wrongly detained as adults – an average of £52,000 each.
Yet in spite of the mistakes, 29 senior officials were paid £295,000 in bonuses in 2009. Bernard Jenkin, chairman of the Commons Public Administration Committee said: “The public administration of the civil service has become increasingly dysfunctional.
“The whole basis of civil administration in the UK has to be a huge agenda for the new government.”
The losses are detailed in the Border Agency’s annual report, published last week. Most embarrassing of the errors is the £13.1million in benefits overpaid to asylum seekers in the past two years.
Officials found that payments still being made to claimants when support should have ended totalled £9.6million during 2008/09 and £3.5million during 2009/10.
About £1.9million went to asylum seekers whose applications had already failed.
Agency chief executive Lin Homer said: “Overpayments should not be happening and we are committed to seeing them dramatically reduced. It is crucial that taxpayers’ money is spent wisely.”
Immigrants 'defrauding benefits to pay for houses back home'
155,000 illegal immigrants qualified for sickness benefits and maternity pay
Work and Pensions Department did not ask for work permits when assessing certain claims
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