Thursday, 28 July 2011

Policing today, policing tomorrow - Tameside


Tameside is to host one of 10 public meetings across the county with the chief constable of Greater Manchester Police (GMP), Peter Fahy and chairman of the Greater Manchester Police Authority (GMPA), Cllr. Paul Murphy.

Local people are invited to Dukinfield Town Hall, King Street, on Thursday 4 August from 5pm to 7pm to discuss policing today and tomorrow.

People attending will find out from the Chief Constable and Chairman how GMP is performing against the targets set by the GMPA and the challenges facing policing in the future.

Chief Constable Peter Fahy said: “These are exceptional times for policing and we’re in a situation we’ve not found ourselves in before. GMP faces challenges to deliver the promises we made in the policing plan for this year to continue to reduce crime, protect vulnerable people, reduce antisocial behaviour and strengthen local policing, while continuing to deliver value for money.

“We are concentrating on preserving frontline services and will continue to focus on neighbourhood policing. To make the savings, we face some very difficult decisions between what we know works and what people want.

“This is an opportunity for Tameside residents to ask questions and discuss the difficult decisions that will be made to ensure that the people of the county are kept safe in the coming years.”

There will also be the opportunity to meet Superintendent Alan Lyon and other officers from the Tameside Division. Officers and staff from forensics and the automatic number plate recording team will be displaying some of the technology and techniques police use to deter and catch criminals.

Cllr Paul Murphy, chairman of Greater Manchester Police Authority, said: “We recognise that the public are rightly concerned about how budget cuts will affect their police service. These events are an opportunity for us to have a conversation with our residents about this issue and answer their questions as best we can.

“Tough decisions have and will be made but we need to make sure we continue to listen to the public of Greater Manchester and involve them in the challenges we face – this is what these events are about.”

36 comments:

Reported for assault and criminal damage said...

Maybe they could save some money and manpower. If they did not come round to my house, every time this man went moaning to them.
This man took 4 CID officers away from serious crime investigations.
Because someone called him nasty, violent, corrupt, on this blog.
He regular sends the Inspector to my house to issue warnings.

Brian Marston said...

Council chiefs have approved plans to scrap free parking in Hyde, despite hundreds of complaints. Charges are to be introduced next month on the top two floors of the multi-storey car park at Clarendon Square shopping centre.
Apparently it 'could' raise £135,000 but it will cost £50,000 to renovate these two floors which are in an appalling state. But if it fails to make money it could close anyway.
Councillor Warren Bray said, 'We are putting these charges in because we need the money. There's no guarantee we will get it but we've got to be seen to be taking action.'
First Tescobridge, then Denton, then Tramageddon in Droylsden, now Hyde. Denton and Droylsden have the proud distinction of being ninth and tenth in the entire country for the percentage of closed down shops in the high street. An outstanding 'achievement' when you consider the Borough's relative affluence compared to some of the country's REAL hellholes.
Don't worry though the labour mafia are on the job.
If the council are so desperate for money that they are implementing measures that actually harm our struggling town centres then perhaps a cull of councillors from the current ludicrous 57 to 19 would be a good start.

NBO said...

650 MPs to 62.5 million people = 96153 per elected representative.

57 Councillors to 215,000 people = 3771 per elected representative.
That means 2.23 Councillors should be able to do it. They'd have to be full time, well paid, INTELLIGENT, professionals. Say £60,000 per annum, and increase the number to three. The overall savings would be massive, even with two year terms to, 'keep them honest' and keen.
The economy's in dire straits and the present long winded, wasteful, outdated and expensive system is a recipe for corruption, self-interest and in some cases the dregs rising to the top.
Three elected professionals focussing entirely on local issues, unlike MPs, well paid and up for election every two years would make any grubby goings on, incompetence etc a lot more difficult to get away with, and easy to 'sort out' regularly via the ballot box.

Ashton Town Hall Lest we forget said...

I was filming this in the Town Hall today, when a guy came up and said. "we need your name and address first before you can film it"

Roy K West said...
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Anonymous said...

Brain Marston said

'Apparently it 'could' raise £135,000 but it will cost £50,000 to renovate these two floors which are in an appalling state. But if it fails to make money it could close anyway.'

Seems like basic economics to me. The car park needs work done to it so why should all council tax payers pay and not the motorists using it. And my understanding is that most of the shoppers already pay on the ground floor and traders use the upper levels. What other organization would run a multi story car park for free??

BNP Meltdown said...

Great to see the rapidly multiplying "right-wing nut-job" micro-parties all getting fewer than 100 votes each in Enfield today.

Even if all the votes of the various wacko factions were added together they would still have been beaten by the independent!

Bush Hill Park, Enfield LBC:

Con 1108
Lab 668
Ind 230
LD 177
Grn 100
UKIP 70
BNP 61
Christian Party 45
English Dems 29

Mondeo Man said...

(copied from the BDF website)

Quotes from Steve Squire (BNP London Organiser and expected 2012 Mayoral candidate), in four seperate articles on the BNP main website, during the run up to yesterday's by-election in Bush Hill Park, Enfield.............

‘A team of sixteen British National Party activists leafleted the entire ward in two-and-a-half hours on Saturday'

'It will give us an opportunity to test our new methods prior to the GLA elections in 2012. There are interesting times ahead.’

‘Everyone was very impressed with the quality of the glossy leaflets from central party that we have been putting out.'

'We’re getting great-looking leaflets spot on time, together with personalised mail-merge letters for postal voters. The service we get from Head Office is outstanding – the machine runs like clockwork"

...and the BNP only polled 2.5% and 61 votes! LOL!

Brian Marston said...

Anonymous, fine, charge until the £50,000 has been raised then go back to the top two storeys being free.
Your comment about only traders using the upper two floors is nonsense, I use them regularly as do many other shoppers.
As for organizations that supply free parking, try any out of town shopping centre, retail park or superstore. The Trafford Centre has acres of free multi-storey parking. TMBC's response has been to spread and increase car parking charges in town centres over the last few years making a bad situation worse. If they 'need the money' so badly what about starting by following NBO's point and getting rid of many of our expensive and unnecessary councillors. If the council was one tenth as efficiently run as many private companies, they wouldn't be pursuing measures as a 'necessity' that actually make things worse.

Old Labour said...

Nationalist parties like UKIP and the BNP never prosper under a Conservative government.

UKIP will peak again at the next European elections before disappearing into anonymity until for another five years until the next European elections.

The BNP need to get rid of their comical oaf of a leader and replace him with a better groomed and more articulate front man and then they will probably be able to capitalise after the next Islamic terror attack.

The other micro nationalist parties will fizzle away to nothing.

Book said...

Nationalist parties are doing badly at the moment and 61 votes is very poor.
But it's 61 more than every gutless, Marxist, 'anti-fascist' group that's ever existed has got. Because they haven't got the guts or integrity to stand.

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The thug in the hood! said...

I find it amazing that this Labour hypocrite, sits on the Dukinfield DA talking about violent crime.
When he himself was reported to the police for an act of violent crime/assault.

I only drink lager shandy these days said...

Ex-BNP organiser – Now a Labour Party candidate!

Anonymous said...

Another London result in Harrow last night mirrored this one, with the Tory romping home, Labour second, an Independent third, the LibDems polling poorly and the Greens with 2.2% and UKIP on 2%. Leaving aside the troubled BNP for one moment the consistent voting trends are:-

1. Poor turnout due to general dissilusionment with politics.
2. A polarisation towards the two main parties with the smaller parties deemed irrelevant and the choice of one of two realistic winners being made (cuts being the main issue).
3. The Independent in both seats polling respectably on local issues.

Sam Beau said...

Do the same to Taylor and watch the Police deal with it in exactly the same manner:No charges. And if you believe that...
The headline would be ; 'Evil BNP thug assaults Godlike Senior Councillor.'

Enoch was Right said...

The British people have been the victims of an onslaught of suicidal propoganda that is unequalled in human history.

But this still doesn't detract from that the fact that ethno-nationalism is simply right. All nations, be they Zulu or English, have a right to their own homeland and have the right to survival and should be allowed to pursue their own unique path in life, free from interferance.

And no matter how much you want to appear nice and fluffy, the cold hard facts are that the British people are being robbed of their homeland, orchestrated by a ruling elite, through the medium of mass immigration. If things carry on as they are, the indigenous people of the UK are in real peril of becoming a minority in their own land.

Every nationalist, whatever shade, knows this. The wimps of UKIP and the English Democrats might try and brush this under the carpet, to get the fluffy vote, but deep down they know they are fooling themselves. Once the indigenous British people are in the minority, then that's the end of the British people and the end of British culture. It's not good thinking that forced Asian and black influence on native British culture can be absorbed. It can't. And as the native people of this land, we shouldn't be expected to asorb the forced destruction of our people, which will inevitabley lead to the forced annihalation of our culture.

Civic/cultural nationalism is simply defeatism, cowardness and engaging in ostrich like behaviour on a grand scale.

I'm sure the brainwashed people of the UK might get their goggle eyed backsides off their couches and put an X against a very nice, harmless civic nationalist candidate. But what then?

The fact that you might have a wimpish civic nationalist government should never be a cause of celebration for a true nationalist. Because nationalism, proper nationalism, can never be implemented off the back of watered down populism. Some fluffy nationalists seem to think that once they are power, then they can actually start implementing some proper nationalist polices.

Dream on. If you have gotten into power on the back of fluffy nationalism, why on Earth do you think the electorate will sit back and accept you doing a total u-turn by trying to bring in a more nationalist agenda?

What would the English Democrats lot do once they are in power? They've sold out their soul, so they are now stuck with the albatross round the neck or civic/"cultural" nationalism. (And now matter how you try to sell it, the two are exactly the same.)

End result: the genocide of the actual indigenous British people will continue unabated. You've managed to get power by trying to be all things to all people, but you've ensured the death of your ethnic group. Nothing will have changed. You'll still be carry on the Lib/Lab/Con agenda. Out with the old boss, in with the new.

Nice one guys...

Anyone who thinks that civic/cultural nationalism will save the British people is deluded. And worse than that, they are actually working against the interests of their own people. However the native British people take back their country, be it through a political party or through other non-parlimentary means, the only ideology that will ensure their survival is ethno-nationalism.

Civic/cultural nationalism is a kop out and must be dropped. Nice in the short term, nice for those cowards who fear the opinions of their peers, but ultimately, suicidal.

filled with foreboding said...

I have long predicted, as the spoiled and pampered baby boomers die off, the world will shake off their terrible ideas. The "great society" their whines spawned are bankrupting every nation that gave in to them.

You can not take from those that work and give it to those who won't and then steadily increase the number of entitlement beneficiaries with out the system collapsing. You can not eradicate the past and falsely award it to those who lack the ability to carry the torch of civilization forward.

The baby-boomers were stupid and spoiled brats, plain and simple. They abandoned the concept of work and preferred to spend their days idle and indulged in slothful pursuits.

The whole world catered to their every whim, and in return, they squandered all that every previous generation of humanity strove to create.The trial and error of over 120 generations consumed in 1. These lazy sods abandoned everything humanity had worked to create.

There was a reason for they way things were, there was knowledge about how people interacted, about how government worked (and how it didn't). And in less than 10 years, they threw it all away on the arrogant delusion they knew better.

We now live in a nightmare world were the middle class work hard to support a nobility living in poverty. Where the criminals have more rights than victims. Were words can be a crime and where history is a concept. Where whites are treated as second class citizens and non-whites are treated as royalty. Where civility is frown upon and vulgarity accepted as the norm.

Despite the hardships forthcoming when Western economies collapse, and they will, perhaps something good may come of it. Perhaps the generations to come will have learned, and will craft an image of the hippies, of the baby boomers, with all the evil they deserve.

Englishman said...

Anon said:

"Some fluffy nationalists seem to think that once they are power, then they can actually start implementing some proper nationalist polices.
Dream on. If you have gotten into power on the back of fluffy nationalism, why on Earth do you think the electorate will sit back and accept you doing a total u-turn by trying to bring in a more nationalist agenda?"

My friend where have you been for the last few decades?

Every Tory and Labour government since WW11 has reneged on their election promises, and what harm has it done those parties? Absolutely none.

The end is nigh... said...

Any number of deconstructions concerning constructivism may be discovered. But the subject is contextualised into a dialectic discourse that includes culture as a totality.

Foucault uses the term ‘deconstructive postcapitalist theory’ to denote the rubicon, and subsequent economy, of textual reality. Thus, Sontag suggests the use of dialectic discourse to analyse and deconstruct society.

The premise of constructivism holds that class, perhaps paradoxically, has objective value, but only if art is equal to consciousness; if that is not the case, we can assume that truth is capable of truth. In a sense, Marx promotes the use of subconstructive narrative to challenge hierarchy.

Might is right said...

'The end is nigh', brilliant incisive comment, that will stop the Muslim hordes in their tracks come 2060.

Powellite said...

Enoch was Right, a comment based on reasoned argument, reality and a fundamental understanding of human nature.
The only minor quibble is: 'are in real peril of becoming a minority in their own land', should read 'will definitely become a minority in their own land.' because that is PRECISELY where things are heading.

The end is nigh... said...

The premise of textual precapitalist theory holds that expression is a product of the collective unconscious. But if textual narrative holds, we have to choose between cultural neostructural theory and Foucaultist power relations.

Debord’s analysis of Sartreist absurdity implies that class, ironically, has significance. Therefore, the subject is interpolated into a textual postcapitalist theory that includes narrativity as a reality.

Many narratives concerning not materialism, but neomaterialism may be discovered. In a sense, Derrida uses the term ‘cultural neostructural theory’ to denote the role of the participant as Muslim.

If one examines cultural neostructural theory, one is faced with a choice: either reject conceptualist desublimation or conclude that narrative comes from the masses, but only if textual narrative is invalid; otherwise, society has intrinsic meaning. The primary theme of Nationalism's model of cultural neostructural theory is not discourse, but postdiscourse. However, several constructions concerning textual narrative exist.

Paul Neville said...

Re parking, now Manchester Council are considering introducing evening and Sunday parking charges. Exactly what's needed in the current dire economic circumstances when so many businesses and individuals are suffering. Still, as long as the Public Sector are alright.
If they're so short of cash they're introducing measures that make things worse then they should be introducing swingeing wage cuts, GENUINE (i.e. real world/Private Sector) efficiency, getting rid of ALL unnecessary staff and above all giving the public value for THEIR money.

One scimitar speaks volumes said...

The end is nigh, how many people have died or committed suicide while you were talking to them?

One too many pints of mild in the sun said...

The Tameside toilers ought to consider that despite all the miseries that the coalition's capitalism imposes upon them, the present economic system still engenders the material conditions and the social forms necessary for a total economical reconstruction of the Tameside economy in favour of the proletarian wealth creators.

Instead of the tired and conservative motto, “A fair day's wage for a fair day's work!” we ought to inscribe on our banners the revolutionary watchwords:

“Abolish the wages system!"
"Expropriate the expropriators!"

Pretentious Wanker said...

Subconscious ethnocentricism is manifest in the way one contextualizes frameworks of reference to interpret conscious reality.

For example, freedom equals unfreedom, or to put it another way - two plus two equals fifteen.

One can see the same hypothesis by looking through a glass ornament. From one angle there is light, and yet from another angle there is simply marxist theory. Although it's not a perfect analogy, it does explain the paradox of many freudian concepts.

Professor Byrnestein said...

Indeed dialectical critical realism may be seen under the aspect of Foucauldian strategic reversal-of the unholy trinity of Parmenidean/Platonic/Aristotelean provenance; of the Cartesian-Lockean-Humean-Kantian paradigm; of foundationalisms (in practice, fideistic foundationalisms) and irrationalisms (in practice, capricious exercises of the will-to-power or some other ideologically and/or psycho-somatically buried source) new and old alike; of the primordial failing of western philosophy, ontological monovalence, and its close ally, the epistemic fallacy with its ontic dual; of the analytic problematic laid down by Plato, which Hegel served only to replicate in his actualist monovalent analytic reinstatement in transfigurative reconciling dialectical connection, while in his hubristic claims for absolute idealism he inaugurated the Comtean, Kierkegaardian and Nietzschean eclipses of reason, replicating the fundaments of positivism through its transmutation route to the superidealism of a Baudrillard."

Anonymous said...

Believe it or not, after 15 pints, so I'm told, the above does in fact start to make sense.

Professor Byrnestein said...

With the last gasp of Romanticism, the quelling of its florid uprising against the vapid formalism of one strain of the Enlightenment, the dimming of its yearning for the imagined grandeur of the archaic, and the dashing of its too sanguine hopes for a revitalized, fulfilled humanity, the horror of its more lasting, more Gothic legacy has settled in, distributed and diffused enough, to be sure, that lugubriousness is recognizable only as languor, or as a certain sardonic laconicism disguising itself in a new sanctification of the destructive instincts, a new genius for displacing cultural reifications in the interminable shell game of the analysis of the human psyche, where nothing remains sacred.

Doppelganger said...

Careful Professor Byrnestein, one more pint and you may end up negating the negation!

Dr Steven Adist said...

Professor, I'm writing you a prescription:
One litre of vitriol (sulfuric acid). Dose to be taken in full.

Fry's Turkish Delight said...

15 pints of what, rum?

tonydj said...

I note that the meeting with the Chief Constable is timed for 5pm to 7pm.

Not very convenient for those who work, especialy those who live or work outside Dukinfield.

Coincidence of course, they would not do it deliberately to stiffle debate or discussion, would they??

Roy K West said...

You've hit the nail on the head with that one.

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