tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post8595711516794162845..comments2024-03-25T14:23:37.412+00:00Comments on Tameside Citizen: An Update by J Hall: TMBC Graph Levels of Fine Particles in the Air For Week Beginning : 26/03/12Tameside Citizenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11360798844854365955noreply@blogger.comBlogger120125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-14352974930963034612012-04-13T20:41:00.094+01:002012-04-13T20:41:00.094+01:00You have failed to answer my points about National...You have failed to answer my points about Nationalist MEPs or the significant increases in Nationalist MPs and popular support in other European countries.<br />I never said support would come from mainstream MPs, I said 60 Nationalist MPs would have significant influence. It would be impossible to ignore a block that represented 10% of MPs.<br />I agree that campaigning for parties like the BNP/NF is counter productiv which is why I never proposed such a course.<br />The white masses in Britain ARE being brainwahed butinternationalist rhetoric about global white enclaves, identity etc is virtually meaningless to them and therefore has no motivational force. The appeal must be to their common senses of patriotism, nationhood and national identity.<br />A significant start has been made in this direction in Holland, Finland, France and other European countries.<br />I didn't propose that white people around the globe 'do nothing NOW', on the contrary I said 'co-operation and collaboration yes, but we should be focussing on resolving our own country's problems'.William Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-49305376569647395252012-04-12T20:12:42.703+01:002012-04-12T20:12:42.703+01:00So in the event of a few nationalist MPs, support ...So in the event of a few nationalist MPs, support would come from mainstream MPs where parliamentary affairs are concerned? A private members bill put forward by the likes of the BNP addressing the kind of issues they campaign on would receive support from the Labour / LibDem / tory benches? Are you serious? With what limited voting power they would have in the commons, the most nationalist MPs could do is offer a voice in the chamber that would fall on contemptuous deaf ears. The propaganda coup of attaining MP status might in itself further the cause somewhat. But like I've said, anything short of government (or strong opposition) is not going to halt let alone reverse the changes taking place.<br /><br />And another thing - whilst election results remain as dire as they currently are for the likes of the BNP, such campaigning is not only wasted time effort and money it is wholly counter-productive. It is negative propaganda for the mainstream to feed to the masses. The unpalatable truth is that there is no real sense of alarm amongst the white masses at the changes taking place. Even the high water-mark of 1 million votes which put many nationalists on cloud nine is paltry - about 3% in a general election. <br /><br />Make no mistake about it - the white masses would have to have a very bad mauling indeed to wake them up. You propose that no white people on the globe start considering alternative options NOW - and that is reckless bordering on suicidal. I don't have all the answers myself, but I welcome any alternative suggested. If we wait for democracy to fail us completely then it may already be too late.Game Overnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-68826234304927446682012-04-12T16:53:36.162+01:002012-04-12T16:53:36.162+01:00You can clearly see the future with astonishing ex...You can clearly see the future with astonishing exactitude, or an invented future that fits your argument. I don't see any 'united implacable opposition' against the Nationalist parties in the EU, or in individual nation states like Holland, Finland etc where nationalists are doing increasingly well.<br />100 councillors is indeed a drop in the ocean with 325 English councils with 50 or so councillors in each, that's 16000 at least, in England alone. 100 people (0.6%) aren't going to make much of a dent in that, but 10% in the national legislature would. There are undoubtedly millions of indigenous people who would vote for a properly run and promoted nationalist party. In the future that MAY not be the case. <br />In any case election campaigning is still the best current course, nationalists in other European countries have proved it.<br /> Talk of global white enclaves etc is meaningless to the British indigenous masses we are trying to rouse from their ignorance and apathy, we need to appeal to their sense of patriotism and nationhood and its shared values, as they are doing in other European countries.William Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-75499645882145397102012-04-12T01:08:02.548+01:002012-04-12T01:08:02.548+01:00" In the event of nationalists entering Westm..." In the event of nationalists entering Westminster all other parties would coalesce as one implacable opposition" <br /><br />Yes, this is tactic they would use without a doubt.The future is hidden by a dark impenetrable veil, and yet we struggle to pierce through itnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-91532701459223205992012-04-11T23:28:09.755+01:002012-04-11T23:28:09.755+01:00"If a LibDem sized presence is so useless how..."If a LibDem sized presence is so useless how DO their 60 MPs wield so much power."<br /><br />Bit of a difference there though. In the event of nationalists entering Westminster all other parties would coalesce as one implacable opposition. They would block vote against any and every private members bill, and as a united front against nationalists they would lay waste to any such 'power'. <br /><br />That is why a majority nationalist government is the only solution, especially at this stage. A few MPs would effect the course of Britain's destiny about as much as the few dozen councillors elected in recent years. And I emphasize "a few", since the prospect of 60 BNP / NF / ED etc candidates taking seat in the commons at any time in the coming decades is remote at best.Game Overnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-65272880224880901352012-04-11T21:30:11.227+01:002012-04-11T21:30:11.227+01:00Gane Over, no-one said anything about a 'right...Gane Over, no-one said anything about a 'right-wing' government with a resounding majority'. I said significant democratic representation.<br />If a LibDem sized presence is so useless how DO their 60 MPs wield so much power. Sixty Nationalist MPs, although they would probably not be in a coalition government, would still have significant influence WITHIN the corridors of power. if the LibDems had given up on the ballot box, as you are suggesting Nationalists should, they would now be a group of pontificating internet fantasists and not influencing the course of events as they actually are.<br />I also didn't say there was a simply democratic solution to the repatriation/demographics issue, I specifically said the ballot box alone won't solve that.<br />By campaigning and working hard for a Nationalist party you give the indigenous population the OPPORTUNITY to vote for their potential salvation. The time MAY come when the course of democratic action is no longer viable but we aren't there yet. I would rather be a 'rosette warrior' than a cyber one.<br />it's difficult to reconcile all this current internationalist talk of global white enclaves etc when we are supposed to be NATIONALISTS. Co-operation and collaboration yes, but we should be focussing on resolving our own country's problems. Britain, after all, is what we're fighting for.William Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-51875505305161837602012-04-11T16:34:40.298+01:002012-04-11T16:34:40.298+01:00http://nomottrambypass.blogspot.co.uk/2008/02/tmbc...http://nomottrambypass.blogspot.co.uk/2008/02/tmbc-longdendale-siege-david-moore.html<br /><br />Some very interesting reading on this link which confirms everything Mr.Hall referred,its not his blog but confirms the TMBC deplorable devious antics and the Longendale Seige Groups deceptions backed by Jonathon Reynolds MP for Stalybridge.<br />As for Reynolds wife as a Dukinfield Councillor not exactly a struggling person to represent Dukinfield folk when her Wedding dress is shown on the Victoria and Alberts Museum Web-site ie <br />Victoria and Albert Museum<br />The world’s greatest museum of art and design<br />The name of your museum: <br />The Big White Dress Show at Mottram Parish Church, September 2009.<br />Vote Labour and see what Claire Reynold nee Johnstone can do for you,perhaps you might get a pattern for the very very expensive and exclusive dress she had.<br />Hard up come off it they are filling up the Labour Gravy Train even more.<br />A now digging Anon supporter of J.HallAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-75045772201592700482012-04-10T23:38:10.880+01:002012-04-10T23:38:10.880+01:00@William Smith
"Talk about 'global white...@William Smith<br /><br />"Talk about 'global white identity' is fanciful nonsense"<br /><br />Like the prospect of a far right government with a resounding majority dominating Westminster in the not too distant future....<br /><br />Let us be clear about one thing - if you're not going to achieve that outcome, then you're not going to achieve much at all. A LibDem sized presence in the commons is pretty useless, and even that is on a scale which remains rooted as firmly as ever in dreamland for nationalists. <br /><br />And since you're so keen to rubbish my suggestions (or lack thereof), perhaps you'd care to explain what your 'democratic solution' to the looming demographic catastrophe is. Legislation to forcibly sterilise non-whites perhaps? I've yet to hear one single real solution to the changes taking place from any of the lightweight nationalist parties or 'movements'. Simply stating that you're standing in elections and democratically representing white interests is just not good enough at this the eleventh hour. <br /><br />As vague as talk of white seperatism may be, it is a sight more pragmatic than the laughable suggestions of 'voluntary repatriation' etc etc that we hear from rosette warriors. To the white nationalist politics is a means to an end, with the end being the long-term survival of the race. <br /><br />Of what value is democracy when you're the last white man standing?? Personally, I couldn't give two hoots how much liberty and democracy there will be in a future mongrel Britain.Last White Manhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26bQ7CWFe0cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-59253870118676930092012-04-10T21:34:23.593+01:002012-04-10T21:34:23.593+01:00Game Over, no-one knows if our current aspirations...Game Over, no-one knows if our current aspirations at the ballot box are 'hopelssly unrealistic' or not. Such talk betrays that despair and desperation at the current nationalist position has significantly affected your judgement and senses of proportion and reality.<br />You don't take one step, because of self-imposed despair, if you're 'clueless' about step two. A long term goal and vision is required. Currently the prospect of gaining menaingful and significant democratic representation is the best available option.<br />Talk about 'global white identity' is fanciful nonsense that presently belongs in the blogosphere. We should be focussing on the REALITY of saving OUR OWN country whilst extending co-operation and collaboration etc to nearby when useful, feasible and appropriate.<br />I never mentioned repatriation, every realist knows the ballot box alone won't solve that.<br />We are still the vast majority of the population in Britain and can therefore still control its destiny.<br />Fantasy talk about global white enclaves is manna from heaven for our enemies in the establishment. It means they KNOW an increasing number of Nationalists have become so desperate at the (patently orchestrated) slow death of the BNP that their judgement and sense of proportion has gone.<br />What you describe may come to pass in the future but IN BRITAIN we're not there yet. We still have the power and numbers to defeat the enemies within.William Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-45036516428193966412012-04-10T15:43:25.368+01:002012-04-10T15:43:25.368+01:00@William Smith
And at what point do we give up, w...@William Smith<br /><br />And at what point do we give up, when we're the last white man standing watching the likes of Anjem Choudary march into Downing Street??<br /><br />What you clearly don't realise is that the longer we cling to hopelessly unrealistic aspirations at the ballot box, the more we compromise any future alternative contingency options. Ditching the ballot box is the first crucial step, even if clueless as to what other course to take. <br /><br />I'm not going into an exhaustive study on this blog as to where to turn to next. What I would say is that imbuing younger white generations around the globe with a strong sense of ethnic identity and pride, and promoting some sense of white unity between different white populations is one of the next steps to take.<br /><br />I always predicted that BNP support would wane after the early 2000s, but even I didn't predict the absolute hemorraging of the last couple of years. The current demographics say one thing loud and clear - the major English cities are lost. Are you seriously suggesting the non-whites that are multiplying are going to be repatriated in the millions? You know as well as I do they're here to stay and growing in power and influence. <br /><br />Through race-mixing there are also fewer and fewer white families untouched by multi-racialism, and that in itself will increasingly sap their ability to resist societal changes. Only a minority of whites in western Europe stand a chance, and in the long-term that may involve some form of seperation and/or migration - by whatever means necessary.Game One Definitely Overhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb1WGEQDKcg&list=FLmx-7CFpgdj7gonA8F5BmHg&index=66&feature=plpp_videonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-20765067777886686452012-04-10T14:27:51.650+01:002012-04-10T14:27:51.650+01:00You need Huggy Bear or a reliable informer as a me...You need Huggy Bear or a reliable informer as a membership card I saw the other day was nearly 9000, and that dated back some time.<br /> No doubt some have left or not renewed but 8200 doing so, especially seeing as they've recently picked up members from other nationalist parties, seems far fetched to say the least.<br />In any case a party of five patriots would be better than one with a million traitors.Quality not quantitynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-39194475395252686692012-04-10T14:08:21.185+01:002012-04-10T14:08:21.185+01:00I am reliably informed the English Democrats have ...I am reliably informed the English Democrats have 867 members as of April 2nd 2012.in the knownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-69370673542251100852012-04-10T14:04:46.057+01:002012-04-10T14:04:46.057+01:00Game Over, you've given up on the ballot box a...Game Over, you've given up on the ballot box and espouse as an alternative, 'a new approach and policy' without giving any details of it or how it can be achieved. If that, and presently unrealistic hyperbole, is the best the 'given up on democracy' brigade have got I'll keep campaigning and trying to wake the masses up for the time being.<br /> Retreating to enclaves could in the end become the only option, at the moment it isn't. Some people who currently propose such methods haven't given up on their kind, they've just given up and are hiding it with rhetoric and fake bitterness.William Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-32549873903278075402012-04-10T09:03:17.152+01:002012-04-10T09:03:17.152+01:00Mossad - The World's Most
Efficient Killing M...Mossad - The World's Most <br />Efficient Killing Machine<br />By Gordon ThomasBy Gordon Thomashttp://www.rense.com/general32/ruth.htmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-72698347559541473202012-04-10T08:51:09.544+01:002012-04-10T08:51:09.544+01:00I really do think, that the Muslim community in Hy...I really do think, that the Muslim community in Hyde should look at the true motivations of the Deputy Leader of Tameside Council.<br />He stands with the Muslim community against the EDL in Hyde.<br />Yet supports Mossad and the persecution of Palestinians in their own homelands.<br />See blue link on name.<br />Oh yes, and a Communist going on about God. Hey this guy could be the leader of Tameside Council.<br /><br />THE MIND BOGGLES!John Taylor supports Mossadhttp://dukinfieldviews.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/israel.htmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-22185394733620941312012-04-10T08:07:56.074+01:002012-04-10T08:07:56.074+01:00ED's have 8,000 members and growing, the bnp h...ED's have 8,000 members and growing, the bnp had 14,000 members niow have less than 1,000 paid up members.<br />Can't understand anyone putting their name to NG's bnp.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-31007913034302149692012-04-10T00:46:47.958+01:002012-04-10T00:46:47.958+01:00If I have any advice to patriotic nationalists it ...If I have any advice to patriotic nationalists it is to abandon the ballot box once and for all. Modern western democracy is nothing more than a form of the blind leading the blind, and continued perserverence will only lead you into a dead-end of frustration and cluelessness. <br /><br />The fact is 90-99% of the white race of western Europe and north America is doomed for extinction within about a century or so. Seperatist movements like the northwestfront in the US have already conceded that nation states cannot be saved, and a new approach and policy is needed. <br /><br />Whether the likes of Iceland and eastern Europe take note of the west's decline only time will tell. But a mongrel western Europe is assured within a few generations, with at least some segments of the continent being islamic. <br /><br />There are still alive today in this country generations who remember what this country once was and have seen first hand what it has become. If the New Labour years were not enough to permanently sway a sizeable portion of those generations to a genuine nationalist party then what will? <br /><br />Most of the older generations (aged 50+) are still loyal to the big three. So if they don't have it in them to change course, then what hope for brainwashed future generations who have known nothing other than 'modern Britain'?Game Overhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mAu_TyRt2gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-66733010675697931042012-04-09T21:24:23.058+01:002012-04-09T21:24:23.058+01:00The BNP is waning but I impress on others the need...The BNP is waning but I impress on others the need to support your local nationalist candidates regardless of your opinion of the main party.<br /><br />I know both of the BNP candidates well, neither is oblivious of the current crisis in British nationalism. <br /><br />Vote BNP, failing that vote for another Nationalist party, or of course, the independent from Dukinfield who frequents this blog. I also endorse the Duky Staly ED candidate.SerpentSlayerhttp://midgardwatcher.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-73600939655115993492012-04-09T20:17:55.334+01:002012-04-09T20:17:55.334+01:00Ever noticed how the post Marxist takeover public ...Ever noticed how the post Marxist takeover public mind has been so dumbed down it actually believes the 2+2=5, war=peace and the smart=dumb narrative from those from whom the peasantry takes its orders.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-65657037963049818632012-04-09T19:45:05.466+01:002012-04-09T19:45:05.466+01:00The Tory leadership has always been in collusion w...The Tory leadership has always been in collusion with Labour for years<br />with arrangements to make sure Labour was not threatened in its secure area`s or else no room for the Top few Tories on Panels or Advisory Groups.<br />The Tory leader has shown a total and complete disregard for the Tameside Public but he`s made a nice living out of doing nothing.<br />As for Labour at the Polls the crap heads of Tameside deserve the sleazy corrupt Labour shite that<br />they get.<br />Such a pity what Tameside could be<br />but for the Council and the 100% support it gets from the local media who block the reality and simply throw a few damp squids now and again by the sycophantic so-called journalists,who are only fit for a kids comic.<br />Dangerous DanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-68616877000142375512012-04-09T14:27:27.293+01:002012-04-09T14:27:27.293+01:00Gets busy at local election time this site doesn&#...Gets busy at local election time this site doesn't it. Labour run around squawking like demented chickens anytime their stranglehold on local power is threatened, even if the chance of them actually being seriously affected is virtually zero (Tameside Tories are utterly pathetic opposition in any case).<br /> Tameside Labour are, in fact, political gangsters of the worst kind who detest the very idea of democratic (or indeed any) opposition.Joseph Garbernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-17889239696777425582012-04-09T12:58:34.902+01:002012-04-09T12:58:34.902+01:00The BNP is finished in all but name.
Does anyone k...The BNP is finished in all but name.<br />Does anyone know how many the other nationalist parties are putting up nationally? In Tameside there are two BNP and three English Democrat.William Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-33164599124123269822012-04-09T09:35:52.088+01:002012-04-09T09:35:52.088+01:00What's the total number of bnp candidates acro...What's the total number of bnp candidates across the country for this years local elections?<br />Only two candidates standing in Tameside.<br />Wiped out in Yorkshire, north east, stoke, burnley ect.....<br />They had 655 candidates in 07.National Frontnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-75678377294259523762012-04-09T01:28:50.761+01:002012-04-09T01:28:50.761+01:00Vitreous accomodation, at least he can construct a...Vitreous accomodation, at least he can construct a coherent argument, which is better than being a pernickety c**t with no apparent views of their own.Knee deep in human bloodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1521899673515819821.post-46318067282775927102012-04-08T22:02:16.406+01:002012-04-08T22:02:16.406+01:00All men whilst they are awake are in one common wo...All men whilst they are awake are in one common world: but each of them, when he is asleep, is in a world of his own.Thanks and goodnightnoreply@blogger.com